[zfs-discuss] I/O patterns during a "zpool replace": why write to the disk being replaced?

2006-11-07 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On a v40z running snv_51, I'm doing a "zpool replace z c1t4d0 c1t5d0". (so, why am I doing the replace? The outgoing disk has been reporting read errors sporadically but with increasing frequency over time..) zpool iostat -v shows writes going to the old (outgoing) disk as well as to the replace

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best Practices recommendation on x4200

2006-11-07 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 11/7/06, Richard Elling - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > d10 mirror of c0t2d0s0 and c0t3d0s0swap (2+2GB, to match above) Also a waste, use a swap file. Add a dumpdev if you care about kernel dumps, no need to mirror a dumpdev. How do you figure that allocating space to a swap fil

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best Practices recommendation on x4200

2006-11-07 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
The best thing about best practices is that there are so many of them :-) Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello John, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 7:45:46 PM, you wrote: JT> Greetings all- JT> I have a new X4200 that I'm getting ready to deploy. It has JT> four 146 GB SAS drives. I'd like to setup

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best Practices recommendation on x4200

2006-11-07 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello John, Tuesday, November 7, 2006, 7:45:46 PM, you wrote: JT> Greetings all- JT> I have a new X4200 that I'm getting ready to deploy. It has JT> four 146 GB SAS drives. I'd like to setup the box for maximum JT> redundancy on the data stored on these drives. Unfortunately, it JT> looks li

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best Practices recommendation on x4200

2006-11-07 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, John Tracy wrote: > Greetings all- > I have a new X4200 that I'm getting ready to deploy. It has four 146 GB > SAS drives. I'd like to setup the box for maximum redundancy on the data > stored on these drives. Unfortunately, it looks like ZFS boot/root aren't > really o

Re: [zfs-discuss] linux versus sol10

2006-11-07 Thread Michael Schuster
listman wrote: hi, i found a comment comparing linux and solaris but wasn't sure which version of solaris was being referred. can the list confirm that this issue isn't a problem with solaris10/zfs?? "Linux also supports asynchronous directory updates which can make a significant performanc

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel Rock
Richard Elling - PAE schrieb: For modern machines, which *should* be the design point, the channel bandwidth is underutilized, so why not use it? And what about encrypted disks? Simply create a zpool with checksum=sha256, fill it up, then scrub. I'd be happy if I could use my machine during s

Re: [zfs-discuss] linux versus sol10

2006-11-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>hi, i found a comment comparing linux and solaris but wasn't sure >which version of solaris was being referred. can the list confirm >that this issue isn't a problem with solaris10/zfs?? > >"Linux also supports asynchronous directory updates which can make a >significant performance improve

[zfs-discuss] linux versus sol10

2006-11-07 Thread listman
hi, i found a comment comparing linux and solaris but wasn't sure which version of solaris was being referred. can the list confirm that this issue isn't a problem with solaris10/zfs??"Linux also supports asynchronous directory updates which can make a significant performance improvement when branc

[zfs-discuss] Best Practices recommendation on x4200

2006-11-07 Thread John Tracy
Greetings all- I have a new X4200 that I'm getting ready to deploy. It has four 146 GB SAS drives. I'd like to setup the box for maximum redundancy on the data stored on these drives. Unfortunately, it looks like ZFS boot/root aren't really options at this time. The LSI Logic controller in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Erast Benson
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 10:30 -0800, Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: > > > Yuen L. Lee wrote: > > opensolaris could be a nice NAS filer. I posted > > my question on "How to build a NAS box" asking for > > instructions on how to build a Solaris NAS box. > > It looks like everyone is busy. I haven't got any

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
> > Yuen L. Lee wrote: > opensolaris could be a nice NAS filer. I posted > my question on "How to build a NAS box" asking for > instructions on how to build a Solaris NAS box. > It looks like everyone is busy. I haven't got any > response yet. By any chance, do you have any Hi Yuen May I suggest

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Yuen L. Lee wrote: Yuen L. Lee wrote: Thanks, Matt! I have the same understanding from my previous experience. The difference is my code may not be integrated into the official distribution. I'm interested in porting the ZFS to the Linux platform because I'm attempting to use ZFS in openf

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Torrey McMahon
Richard Elling - PAE wrote: The better approach is for the file system to do what it needs to do as efficiently as possible, which is the current state of ZFS. This implies that the filesystem has exclusive use of the channel - SAN or otherwise - as well as the storage array front end control

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Yuen L. Lee
> Yuen L. Lee wrote: > > Thanks, Matt! I have the same understanding from my > previous > > experience. The difference is my code may not be > integrated into > > the official distribution. I'm interested in > porting the ZFS to the Linux > > platform because I'm attempting to use ZFS in > openfile

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Daniel Rock wrote: Richard Elling - PAE schrieb: The big question, though, is "10% of what?" User CPU? iops? Maybe something like the "slow" parameter of VxVM? slow[=iodelay] Reduces toe system performance impact of copy operations. Su

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Yuen L. Lee wrote: Thanks, Matt! I have the same understanding from my previous experience. The difference is my code may not be integrated into the official distribution. I'm interested in porting the ZFS to the Linux platform because I'm attempting to use ZFS in openfiler. I think it would be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Daniel Rock
Richard Elling - PAE schrieb: The big question, though, is "10% of what?" User CPU? iops? Maybe something like the "slow" parameter of VxVM? slow[=iodelay] Reduces toe system performance impact of copy operations. Such operations are us

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Yuen L. Lee
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[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Yuen L. Lee
> Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There have been extensive discussions on loadable > modules and licensing > > w/r/t the GPLv2 in the linux kernel. nVidia, > amongst others, pushed hard > > to allow for non-GPL-compatible licensed code to be > allowed as a Linux > > kernel module

Re: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Robert Milkowski wrote: Saturday, November 4, 2006, 12:46:05 AM, you wrote: REP> Incidentally, since ZFS schedules the resync iops itself, then it can REP> really move along on a mostly idle system. You should be able to resync REP> at near the media speed for an idle system. By contrast, a har

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS direct i/o

2006-11-07 Thread Roch - PAE
Here is my take on this http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/zfs_and_directio -r Marlanne DeLaSource writes: > I had a look at various topics covering ZFS direct I/O, and this topic is > sometimes mentioned, and it was not really clear to me. > > Correct me if I'm wrong > Direct

[zfs-discuss] ZFS direct i/o

2006-11-07 Thread Marlanne DeLaSource
I had a look at various topics covering ZFS direct I/O, and this topic is sometimes mentioned, and it was not really clear to me. Correct me if I'm wrong • Direct I/O is not strictly POSIX • It is not implemented in ZFS (?) Then, how can we try to replace this feature that can speed databases fo

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] # devices in raidz.

2006-11-07 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Richard, Saturday, November 4, 2006, 12:46:05 AM, you wrote: REP> Incidentally, since ZFS schedules the resync iops itself, then it can REP> really move along on a mostly idle system. You should be able to resync REP> at near the media speed for an idle system. By contrast, a hardware RE

[zfs-discuss] CHOSUG Events in December with Bill Moore, co-lead of the ZFS Eng. team!!!

2006-11-07 Thread Karim Riad MAZOUNI
Dear all, Just to announce that [b]Bill Moore [/b]will visit Switzerland on the first week of December and he will present & demo ZFS at our CHOSUG events planned on [b]Dec. 7th at EPFL[/b] (Lausanne) and on [b]Dec. 8th at CERN[/b] (Geneva). Those events are obviously free and open to anyone: y

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Matt Ingenthron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not an expert (nor am I offering legal advice), but my understanding > of GPLv2 is the copyright holder can explicitly state exceptions on > linking, so they could allow linking with ZFS even though it's under the > CDDL. Linux, when run on say

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Erik Trimble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There have been extensive discussions on loadable modules and licensing > w/r/t the GPLv2 in the linux kernel. nVidia, amongst others, pushed hard > to allow for non-GPL-compatible licensed code to be allowed as a Linux > kernel module. However, the ke

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for Linux 2.6

2006-11-07 Thread Erik Trimble
There have been extensive discussions on loadable modules and licensing w/r/t the GPLv2 in the linux kernel. nVidia, amongst others, pushed hard to allow for non-GPL-compatible licensed code to be allowed as a Linux kernel module. However, the kernel developers' consensus seems to have come do