Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot: Dividing up the name space

2007-05-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
Mike Dotson wrote: On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 17:48 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: On 4/26/07, Lori Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Tribble wrote: Why do administrators do 'df' commands? It's to find out how much space is used or available in a single file system

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
Brian Hechinger wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 02:44:02PM -0700, Malachi de ??lfweald wrote: 2. ZFS mirroring can work without the metadb, but if you want the dump mirrored too, you need the metadb (I don't know if it needs to be mirrored, but I wanted both disks to be identical in case one

Re: [zfs-discuss] Multiple filesystem costs? Directory sizes?

2007-05-01 Thread Jeff Bonwick
Mario, For the reasons you mentioned, having a few different filesystems (on the order of 5-10, I'd guess) can be handy. Any time you want different behavior for different types of data, multiple filesystems are the way to go. For maximum directory size, it turns out that the practical limits a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Very Large Filesystems

2007-05-01 Thread Peter Tribble
On 4/28/07, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 05:02:47PM +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: > > In practical terms, backing up much over a terabyte > in a single chunk isn't ideal. What I would like to see > here is more flexibility from something like Legato > in terms

Re: [zfs-discuss] Multiple filesystem costs? Directory sizes?

2007-05-01 Thread Richard Elling
Mario Goebbels wrote: While setting up my new system, I'm wondering whether I should go with plain directories or use ZFS filesystems for specific stuff. About the cost of ZFS filesystems, I read on some Sun blog in the past about something like 64k kernel memory (or whatever) per active filesy

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
The name of the pool should not matter. Lori Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: That's a good catch - I had indeed changed mine to rootpool, but didn't think the chosen name mattered. On 5/1/07, *Rob Logan* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > sits there for a second, then

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
That's a good catch - I had indeed changed mine to rootpool, but didn't think the chosen name mattered. On 5/1/07, Rob Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sits there for a second, then boot loops and comes back to the grub menu. I noticed this too when I was playing... using kernel$ /platform/i

[zfs-discuss] zpool command causes a crash of my server

2007-05-01 Thread Leon Koll
Hello, on my sparc server running s10/u3 w/all latest patches. I created a zpool and one fs and started to copy the data to it. The host crashed during the tar... | tar ... run. After it happened I tried "zpool destroy" and the host crashed. The same with "zpool export". It looks like a bug http:

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS: Under The Hood" at LOSUG (16/05/07)

2007-05-01 Thread Brian Gupta
Any chance you might do a video podcast of this? -Brian On 5/1/07, Joy Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The speaker at our next London OpenSolaris User Group (LOSUG) session will be Jarod Nash, TSC Systems Engineer. Jarod will present "ZFS: Under The Hood", which aims to lift up the ZFS Bo

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Mike Walker
i am attempting to install b62 from the b62_zfsboot.iso that was posted last week. > > Mike makes a good point. We have some severe > problems > with build 63. I've been hoping to get an answer for > what's > going on with it, but so far, I don't have one. > > So, note to everyone: for zfs b

[zfs-discuss] "ZFS: Under The Hood" at LOSUG (16/05/07)

2007-05-01 Thread Joy Marshall
The speaker at our next London OpenSolaris User Group (LOSUG) session will be Jarod Nash, TSC Systems Engineer. Jarod will present "ZFS: Under The Hood", which aims to lift up the ZFS Bonnet and explain the building blocks of the ZFS engine. Without getting too bogged down with specific implem

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Rob Logan
> sits there for a second, then boot loops and comes back to the grub menu. I noticed this too when I was playing... using kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -v -B $ZFS-BOOTFS I could see vmunix loading, but it quickly NMIed around the rootnex: [ID 349649 kern.notice] isa0 at root point.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
Mike makes a good point. We have some severe problems with build 63. I've been hoping to get an answer for what's going on with it, but so far, I don't have one. So, note to everyone: for zfs boot purposes, build 63 appears to be DOA. We'll get out information on that as soon as possible, an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
Jason King wrote: I tried it and it worked great. Even cloned my boot environment, and BFU'd the clone and it seemed to work (minus a few unrelated annoyances I haven't tracked down yet). I'm quite excited about the possibilities :) I am wondering though, is it possible to skip the creation

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-05-01 Thread Lori Alt
It looks to me like what you did should have worked. The "cluster" line is fine. I almost always include one in my profiles. So here's a couple things to try: 1. After the install completes, but before you reboot, look at the GRUB menu file: # mount -F zfs mypool /mnt # cat /mnt/bo

[zfs-discuss] Multiple filesystem costs? Directory sizes?

2007-05-01 Thread Mario Goebbels
While setting up my new system, I'm wondering whether I should go with plain directories or use ZFS filesystems for specific stuff. About the cost of ZFS filesystems, I read on some Sun blog in the past about something like 64k kernel memory (or whatever) per active filesystem. What are however

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: B62 AHCI and ZFS

2007-05-01 Thread Peter Goodman
Changed to: zpool create -f mtf c1t0d0 c1t1d0 c1t2d0 c1t3d0 c1t4d0 c1t5d0 works fine and the throughput is still the very satisfactory sustained sequential 360MB/s write and 385MB/s read Thanks This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-di

[zfs-discuss] Re: Very Large Filesystems

2007-05-01 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On 2007-04-28, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > So what you *really* want is TSM. I wonder if IBM would ever > consider supporting ZFS. > TSM can do file-level backup of any normal posix file system by specifying "VirtualMountPoint /directory". You just woun't get the extra featur

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-05-01 Thread Georg-W. Koltermann
Not much bliss to report with OpenSolaris. Getting there was an adventure. I had to find out how to boot from a changed root device (after reconnecting my primary disk, I had disconnected that during the Solaris install so I wouldn't accidentally overwrite it). I had to find a way of transferr