[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread John Smith
Thanks for the continuing flow of information. I already have all of the equipment. I'm actually upgrading my main computer to a new Core 2 Duo setup which is why this hardware is going to the file server. I think I'm going to try a 64bit install using the four 500GB drives in a RAID-Z config

[zfs-discuss] Re: Permanently removing vdevs from a pool

2007-05-08 Thread Anon
> > 1. evacuating a vdev resulting in a smaller pool > for all raid configs - ? > > > > 2. adding new vdev and rewriting all existing data > to new larger > >stripe - ? > > > > 3. expanding stripe width for raid-z1 and raid-z2 - > ? > > > > 4. live conversion between different raid kinds on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs tcsh command completion

2007-05-08 Thread Mark J Musante
On 8 May, 2007, at 22.51, Cyril Plisko wrote: So I quickly hacked together a script which defines the necessary complete clauses (yes I am a tcsh user). After playing with it for a while I decided to share it with community in a hope that it may be improved/extended and be a useful tool in day

[zfs-discuss] zfs tcsh command completion

2007-05-08 Thread Cyril Plisko
Hi ! I was in the middle of very long and boring transatlantic flight and played with zfs and gzip compression on my laptop. And I just thought that it may be quite useful for your shell to be able to autocomplete the arguments to the zfs/zpool command. So I quickly hacked together a script which

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Eric Haycraft
I would personally avoid the P4 chip. They are power hogs and will cost you more money in the long run than getting a low-end core 2 duo - which should be faster and not much more money. Make sure you keep power consumption in mind when you pick up a power supply and video card too. The always o

[zfs-discuss] Re: Boot disk clone with zpool present

2007-05-08 Thread Mark V. Dalton
The ZFS boot disk support we need has to be SPARC-based and our standards would require that the support be present in the commercial Solaris 10 code-base, unfortunately. Your comments and observations are welcome input. I thank you very much for your time and effort in replying. :-) Best Reg

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread MC
Onboard RAID solutions actually do all their work on your CPU, so you won't be using that for anything if you use ZFS. You just want them acting like regular SATA controllers. Just run the Solaris hardware compatibility thinger (google it), or compare your hardware to the supported hardware

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
With b62, he can do ZFS mirror for root in addition to the raidz for the data but it would still require a second root drive... Malachi On 5/8/07, Paul Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd recommend getting a second 80GB disk and mirroring your root as well. UFS+SDS for root (don

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Michael Canayev
> Probably RAID-Z as you don't have enough disks to be interesting for doing > 1+0. > Paul How do you configure ZFS RAID 1+0 ? Will next lines do that right? : [b]zpool create -f zfs_raid1 mirror c0t1d0 c1t1d0 zpool add zfs_raid1 mirror c2t1d0 c3t1d0 zpool add zfs_raid1 mirror c4t1d0 c5t1d0[/b] A

[zfs-discuss] How does ZFS write data to disks?

2007-05-08 Thread Mario Goebbels
While trying some things earlier in figuring out how zpool iostat is supposed to be interpreted, I noticed that ZFS behaves kind of weird when writing data. Not to say that it's bad, just interesting. I wrote 160MB of zeroed data with dd. I had zpool iostat running with an one second interval.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS2 overhead and may be a bug?

2007-05-08 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Matthew, Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 1:04:56 AM, you wrote: MA> Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: This is what I see on Solaris (hole is 4GB): # /usr/bin/time dd if=/ufs/hole of=/dev/null bs=128k real 23.7 # /usr/bin/time dd if=/zfs/hole of=/dev/null b

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Support for remote mirroring

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Newcomb
Bryan, Thanks for your suggestion. I am looking at this as more of a DR solution. However, I might be able to use your method if my data can be a little old. Perhaps this way I could sync the data nightly with a remote site to make sure that I am no more than 24 hours behind in the case of a di

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Support for remote mirroring

2007-05-08 Thread Aaron Newcomb
Torrey, Yes. I am used to dealing with the array based software you mention in your post as well as filesystem based products like AVS and Veritas Volume Replicator. After reading some documentation send to me by Cindy Swearingen (Thanks Cindy!) about zfs send and receive it seems that it is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal strategy (add or replace disks) to build acheap and raidz?

2007-05-08 Thread Erblichs
Group, MOST people want a system to work without doing ANYTHING when they turn on the system. So yes, the thought of people buying another drive and installing it in a brand new system would be insane for this group of buyers. Mitchell Erblich

[zfs-discuss] Lost in boot loop..

2007-05-08 Thread Steffen Weinreich
Hi! I have installed svn_62 a few days ago and thought to give zfs boot a try. I followed the manual instructions and was able to get everything up and running with a zfs boot/root environment. After some tweaking (adding 2. Disk to the rootpool, moving some files from some old zfs fs to the

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Motley group of discs?

2007-05-08 Thread Bryan Wagoner
If you were really worried about it you could mount forcedirect IO or something, however, if you read the post, I mentioned to do it as a spare. A spare isn't active until there's a problem, so you'd only be running with the filedevice temporarily in theory anyway. This message posted from o

[zfs-discuss] Re: Samba and ZFS ACL Question

2007-05-08 Thread Steve Kim
I hope it will be released soon. I asked Jiri about it and didn't get a negative reply so I am optimistic now. Steve This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman

[zfs-discuss] Re: Samba and ZFS ACL Question

2007-05-08 Thread Steve Kim
Hi Jiri, > 3.0.25rc1 was released 2 days ago so the "final > version" will be available soon. vfs_zfsacl.c module > was tested soon so I think it is a question of 2-3 > weeks. 3 weeks after you posted this...can I ask you to update the community about the availability of vfs_zfsacl.c module? Eve

[zfs-discuss] zpool import - arc problem?

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hi. bash-3.00# uname -a SunOS 5.10 Generic_125101-04 i86pc i386 i86pc Server is x4100. NFS server under Sun Cluster with ZFS. I issued 'zpool import' to see other pool available to import on one node and then I got very slow nfs access to that node, nfsd go upto ~3500 threads (from ~500)

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] tape-backup software (was: Very Large Filesystems)

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Claus, Saturday, April 28, 2007, 4:27:58 PM, you wrote: CG> Speaking of backup-software. I heard that legato supports zfs but is CG> anyone using zfs and legato or some other backup-software that can CG> handle multi-TB-file systems (in production)? Legato+ZFS works here in production. -

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: gzip compression throttles system?

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ian, Thursday, May 3, 2007, 10:20:20 PM, you wrote: IC> Roch Bourbonnais wrote: >> >> with recent bits ZFS compression is now handled concurrently with many >> CPUs working on different records. >> So this load will burn more CPUs and acheive it's results >> (compression) faster. >> IC> Wou

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS raid on removable media for backups/temporary use possible?

2007-05-08 Thread Chris Gerhard
I've used ZFS to back up my laptops to an external USB disk that formed one half of the mirror for a long while. See: http://blogs.sun.com/chrisg/entry/external_usb_disk_drive I recently stopped doing that in favour of doing the same to iSCSI luns hosted on ZFS ZVOLs on a server: http://blogs.

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs UFS2 overhead and may be a bug?

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Matthew, Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 1:04:56 AM, you wrote: MA> Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >> This is what I see on Solaris (hole is 4GB): >> >> # /usr/bin/time dd if=/ufs/hole of=/dev/null bs=128k >> real 23.7 >> # /usr/bin/time dd if=/zfs/hole of=/dev/null bs=128k >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Collins
John Smith wrote: > Sorry about that, the specific processor in question is the Pentium D 930 > which supports 64 bit computing through the Extended Memory 64 Technology. > It was my initial reaction to say I'd go with 32 bit computing because my > general experience with 64-bit is Windows, Lin

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Armstrong
I'd recommend getting a second 80GB disk and mirroring your root as well. UFS+SDS for root (don't forget a live upgrade slice) and ZFS for the other disks. Probably RAID-Z as you don't have enough disks to be interesting for doing 1+0. Paul This message posted from opensolaris.org _

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread John Smith
Sorry about that, the specific processor in question is the Pentium D 930 which supports 64 bit computing through the Extended Memory 64 Technology. It was my initial reaction to say I'd go with 32 bit computing because my general experience with 64-bit is Windows, Linux, and some FreeBSD. Gen

[zfs-discuss] Re: Samba and ZFS ACL Question

2007-05-08 Thread Yaniv Aknin
Same here, needed ASAP. It's a shame Jiri can't release his work-in-progress code, I've asked for a prerelease (even untested) version several times. :( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread Ian Collins
John Smith wrote: > The original thought was 3 of the drives as storage, and one of the drives as > parity. So that would yield around 1.4TB of useable storage. Then raidz is your only option. > I hadn't given any thought to running 64 bit. This system is being built > from the ground up. I

[zfs-discuss] Re: Need guidance on RAID 5, ZFS, and RAIDZ on home file server

2007-05-08 Thread John Smith
The original thought was 3 of the drives as storage, and one of the drives as parity. So that would yield around 1.4TB of useable storage. I hadn't given any thought to running 64 bit. This system is being built from the ground up. I guess in the back of my head I had assumed it would be 32