Re: [zfs-discuss] LZO compression?

2008-04-12 Thread Richard Elling
roland wrote: > nothing new on this? > > i'm really wondering that interest in alternative compression schemes is that > low, especially due to the fact that lzo seems to compress better and be > faster than lzjb. > > nobody at sun who has done further investigation ? > I'm not aware of anyo

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread Joe Little
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/08/2008 11:22:53 AM: > > > > In our environment, the politically and administratively simplest > > approach to managing our storage is to give each separate group at > > least one ZFS pool of their own (

Re: [zfs-discuss] LZO compression?

2008-04-12 Thread Tim
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, roland wrote: > > > > i'm really wondering that interest in alternative compression > > schemes is that low, especially due to the fact that lzo seems to > > compress better and be faster than lzjb.

Re: [zfs-discuss] LZO compression?

2008-04-12 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, roland wrote: > > i'm really wondering that interest in alternative compression > schemes is that low, especially due to the fact that lzo seems to > compress better and be faster than lzjb. LZO seems to have a whole family of compressors. One reason why it is faster is th

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| I don't think that's the case. What's wrong with setting both a quota | and a reservation on your user filesystems? In a shared ZFS pool situation I don't think we'd get anything from using both. We have to use something to limit people to the storage that they bought, and in at least S10 U4 q

Re: [zfs-discuss] LZO compression?

2008-04-12 Thread roland
nothing new on this? i'm really wondering that interest in alternative compression schemes is that low, especially due to the fact that lzo seems to compress better and be faster than lzjb. nobody at sun who has done further investigation ? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread David Collier-Brown
Chris Siebenmann wrote: > Every university department has to face the issue of how to allocate > disk space to people. Here, we handle storage allocation decisions > through the relatively simple method of selling fixed-size chunks of > storage to faculty (either single professors or groups of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread Will Murnane
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Chris Siebenmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, we are always going to have a certain number of logical pools of > storage space to manage. The question is whether to handle them as > separate ZFS pools or aggregate them into fewer ZFS pools and then > admini

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| Hi Chris, I would have thought that managing multiple pools (you | mentioned 200) would be an absolute administrative nightmare. If you | give more details about your storage needs like number of users, space | required etc it might become clearer what you're thinking of setting | up. Every uni

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread Graeme West
Hi David, Thanks, there's no need to ask around. I should be able to work it out. Thanks for your help. Graeme On 12 Apr 2008, at 15:47, David Magda wrote: > On Apr 12, 2008, at 10:23, Graeme West wrote: > >> Do you happen to have a note of the settings from the Xserve RAID >> admin utility in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread Richard Elling
Graeme West wrote: > --Apologies if you get two copies of this message - it was submitted > for moderation and hasn't appeared on the list in two days, so I'm > resubmitting. > > Hi all, > Just a quick question. Is it possible to utilise an Apple Xserve RAID > as an array for use with ZFS with R

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZVOL access permissions?

2008-04-12 Thread Ellis, Mike
Could someone kindly provide some details on using a zvol in sparse-mode? Wouldn't the COW nature of zfs (assuming COW still applies on ZVOLS) quickly erode the sparse nature of the zvol? Would sparse data-presentation only work by delegating a part of a zpool to a zone, but that's at the file-

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread David Magda
On Apr 12, 2008, at 10:23, Graeme West wrote: > Do you happen to have a note of the settings from the Xserve RAID > admin utility in order to present things as a JBOD? It may be > straightforward, I'm not too familiar with the utility. Not off-hand. It's a separate dev group that tends to do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread Graeme West
Hi David, Thanks, that's good news, as we're trying to repurpose an Xserve RAID with some new servers. > exporting things as a JBOD and using ZFS to tie things together. That's exactly what I want to do. Our current setup is two mirrored RAID-5 arrays, so we'd probably set up a couple of RAI

[zfs-discuss] ZVOL access permissions?

2008-04-12 Thread Mario Goebbels
How can I set up a ZVOL that's accessible by non-root users, too? The intent is to use sparse ZVOLs as raw disks in virtualization (reducing overhead compared to file-based virtual volumes). Thanks, -mg This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread David Magda
On Apr 12, 2008, at 07:52, Graeme West wrote: > Just a quick question. Is it possible to utilise an Apple Xserve > RAID as an array for use with ZFS with RAID-Z in Solaris? Yes. In one of our development labs we have the "Xraid" (now discontinued) exporting things as a JBOD and using ZFS to t

[zfs-discuss] Newbie question: ZFS on Xserve RAID with Solaris 10

2008-04-12 Thread Graeme West
--Apologies if you get two copies of this message - it was submitted for moderation and hasn't appeared on the list in two days, so I'm resubmitting. Hi all, Just a quick question. Is it possible to utilise an Apple Xserve RAID as an array for use with ZFS with RAID-Z in Solaris? I've see

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many ZFS pools is it sensible to use on a single server?

2008-04-12 Thread Simon Breden
Hi Chris, I would have thought that managing multiple pools (you mentioned 200) would be an absolute administrative nightmare. If you give more details about your storage needs like number of users, space required etc it might become clearer what you're thinking of setting up. Also, I see you w