Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> For the record, the source of the ZFS Admin Guide is > created with > a SGML editor that is not Framemaker. I agree that > the evince PDF > display problems are with the font changes only. > > Cindy Perhaps some considerations should be given to create those documents with OpenOffice.org or St

Re: [zfs-discuss] [RFC] Improved versioned pointer algorithms

2008-07-21 Thread Miles Nordin
> "dp" == Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: dp> What if you don't want it to be a full fledged independent, dp> but instead continue to share as much storage as possible with dp> the original filesystem? The Fine Man page says in very clear orange-and-black text that no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Interesting view on flash

2008-07-21 Thread Grant Kelly
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Any study will show that (similar to humans) computers make little use > of their brains. > Surely there's no reason to continue spreading that myth. http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html -Grant ___ zfs-discu

[zfs-discuss] ZFS scrub time estimate up to 50% off

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
While using Solaris 10U4 with all patches applied, I notice that the estimated time to complete a scrub is way off: scrub in progress, 68.81% done, 0h7m to go When it is about 50% done, the estimated time to complete is something like 9 minutes when it really needs over 30 minutes more. Does t

Re: [zfs-discuss] [RFC] Improved versioned pointer algorithms

2008-07-21 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Monday 21 July 2008 14:37, Will Murnane wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 17:22, Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that is not my point. My point is that there is no way to recover > > the volume space used by my example file short of deleting both the > > clone and the snapshot

Re: [zfs-discuss] OT - font hell? - was Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Elling
As I mentioned before, the fonts are undergoing various transitions. There are transitions on many fronts, including font licensing and the subsequent substitutions. I'd like to say everything will be settled soon, but I don't think we'll ever see everything settled :-( There is nothing wrong wit

Re: [zfs-discuss] [RFC] Improved versioned pointer algorithms

2008-07-21 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 17:22, Daniel Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But that is not my point. My point is that there is no way to recover > the volume space used by my example file short of deleting both the > clone and the snapshot. Not so. Use "zfs promote" to make the clone into a full

Re: [zfs-discuss] [RFC] Improved versioned pointer algorithms

2008-07-21 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Sunday 20 July 2008 21:38, Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: > > On Monday 14 July 2008 08:29, Akhilesh Mritunjai > > wrote: > > > Writable snapshots are called "clones" in zfs. So > > infact, you have > > > trees of snapshots and clones. Snapshots are > > read-only, and you can > > > create any number

Re: [zfs-discuss] ? SX:CE snv_91 - ZFS - raid and mirror - drive

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Rob Clark wrote: > "Do not use the same disk or slice in both an SVM and ZFS configuration." It seems that the main reason for this is that responding to faults becomes haphazard and unsynchronized. Unlike the space shuttle, there are not three flight computers, with cross

Re: [zfs-discuss] Announcement: The Unofficial Unsupported Python ZFS API

2008-07-21 Thread Will Murnane
I have applied for and received approval for a Sourceforge project. It's rather barebones at the moment, but the important part is a public Subversion server is now available. See https://pyzfs.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pyzfs/trunk . On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:04, Jonathan Hogg <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [zfs-discuss] copying a ZFS

2008-07-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Bob, Sunday, July 20, 2008, 5:08:23 PM, you wrote: BF> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Mattias Pantzare wrote: >>> >>> Is there a ZFS-specific method for doing that beats the heck of out tar, >>> etc? >>> (RTFM indicates there is not; I R'd the FM :^). >> >> Use zfs send | zfs receive if you wish to

Re: [zfs-discuss] OT - font hell? - was Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Elling
Toby Thain wrote: > > On 21-Jul-08, at 2:50 AM, Richard Elling wrote: > >> Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: >>> Evince likes to fuzz a number of PDFs. I too can't seem to nail the >>> problems, but it seems that a number of PDFs from SUN have this >>> problem (very wrong character spacing), and they all

Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Elling
Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: >> Welcome to font hell :-(. For many years, Sun >> documentation was written >> in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely >> available. I believe >> > > Umm No. PDF supports font embedding. This is how so many PDFs are out there > (company brochures, fli

Re: [zfs-discuss] ? SX:CE snv_91 - ZFS - raid and mirror - drive

2008-07-21 Thread Carson Gaspar
Richard Elling wrote: > Rob Clark wrote: >>> Solaris will allow you to do this, but you'll need to use SVM instead of >>> ZFS. >>> Or, I suppose, you could use SVM for RAID-5 and ZFS to mirror those. >>> -- richard >>> >> Or run Linux ... >> >> >> Richard, The ZFS Best Practices Guide says not.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ? SX:CE snv_91 - ZFS - raid and mirror - drive

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Elling
Rob Clark wrote: >> Solaris will allow you to do this, but you'll need to use SVM instead of >> ZFS. >> Or, I suppose, you could use SVM for RAID-5 and ZFS to mirror those. >> -- richard >> > Or run Linux ... > > > Richard, The ZFS Best Practices Guide says not. > > "Do not use the same di

Re: [zfs-discuss] ? SX:CE snv_91 - ZFS - raid and mirror - drive

2008-07-21 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> > Or, I suppose, you could use SVM for RAID-5 and ZFS to mirror those. > > Richard, The ZFS Best Practices Guide says not. > > "Do not use the same disk or slice in both an SVM and ZFS configuration." Hmmm... my guess is that this means that one shouldn't layer SVM and ZFS devices. I can't see

Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
For the record, the source of the ZFS Admin Guide is created with a SGML editor that is not Framemaker. I agree that the evince PDF display problems are with the font changes only. Cindy Akhilesh Mritunjai wrote: >>Welcome to font hell :-(. For many years, Sun >>documentation was written >>in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] checksum errors on root pool after upgrade to snv_94

2008-07-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
Rustam wrote: > I'm living with this error for almost 4 months and probably have record > number of checksum errors: > # zpool status -xv > pool: box5 ... > errors: Permanent errors have been detected in the > following files: > > box5:<0x0> > > I've Sol 10 U5 though. I suspect that

Re: [zfs-discuss] confusion and frustration with zpool

2008-07-21 Thread Pete Hartman
Just to close the loop on this, for some other poor soul having similar problems and googling away I believe I have resolved it. The problem was somewhere on the 750G drive, and was fixed by detaching and re-attaching it to my mirrors. I actually took the extra step of creating a UFS on th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ? SX:CE snv_91 - ZFS - raid and mirror - drive

2008-07-21 Thread Rob Clark
> Solaris will allow you to do this, but you'll need to use SVM instead of ZFS. > > Or, I suppose, you could use SVM for RAID-5 and ZFS to mirror those. > -- richard Or run Linux ... Richard, The ZFS Best Practices Guide says not. "Do not use the same disk or slice in both an SVM and ZFS con

Re: [zfs-discuss] Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-07-21 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
> Welcome to font hell :-(. For many years, Sun > documentation was written > in the Palatino font, which is (or was?) not freely > available. I believe Umm No. PDF supports font embedding. This is how so many PDFs are out there (company brochures, fliers etc) with commercial fonts and they loo

[zfs-discuss] Undo "zfs destroy -r"

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas Widhalm
Hi, I have the following setup: zfs' with daily snapshots: export export/home export/home[username] I wanted to get rid of the export/home zfs because it is empty and replace it with a directory "home" in export. Unfortunately I umounted all homes and gave "zfs destroy -r export/home". I know,

[zfs-discuss] ZFS fails to mount all datasets on boot

2008-07-21 Thread Martin Uhl
I have a server with a huge number of datasets (around 9000) When the pool containing the datasets is imported on boot up, a few (<10) datasets are not mounted and thus not exported via nfs. Which dataset is not mounted is random. All datasets are exported via nfs. A zfs import takes around 30

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't change owner of directories?

2008-07-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Kyle McDonald wrote: > Why can't I do this in a ZFS directory? > (I was able to set the group with no problems.) > > # chown auser * > chown: DIR1: cannot change owner [Invalid argument] > chown: DIR2: cannot change owner [Invalid argument] Which release of OpenSolaris ? Are you using /usr/bin/c

Re: [zfs-discuss] checksum errors on root pool after upgrade to snv_94

2008-07-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 10:28 -0700, Jürgen Keil wrote: > > > I ran a scrub on a root pool after upgrading to snv_94, and got checksum > > > errors: > > > > Hmm, after reading this, I started a zpool scrub on my mirrored pool, > > on a system that is running post snv_94 b

Re: [zfs-discuss] checksum errors on root pool after upgrade to snv_94

2008-07-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
Miles Nordin wrote: > "jk" == Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > jk> And a zpool scrub under snv_85 doesn't find checksum errors, either. > how about a second scrub with snv_94? are the checksum errors gone > the second time around? Nope. I've now seen this problem on 4 zpools on three