Re: [zfs-discuss] Partitioning ARC

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Stuart Anderson wrote: > On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:21 PM, stuart anderson wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to partition the global setting for the maximum ARC size >>> with finer grained controls? Ideally, I would like

Re: [zfs-discuss] Partitioning ARC

2011-01-30 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:21 PM, stuart anderson wrote: > >> Is it possible to partition the global setting for the maximum ARC size >> with finer grained controls? Ideally, I would like to do this on a per >> zvol basis but a setting per zpool w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Query zfs send objects

2011-01-30 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Jan 30, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Stuart Anderson wrote: >> >> On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Richard Elling wrote: >> >>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:48 PM, stuart anderson wrote: >>> Is there a simple way to query zfs send binary objects for bas

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Peter Jeremy [mailto:peter.jer...@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:48 PM > > >2- When you want to restore, it's all or nothing. If a single bit is > >corrupt in the data stream, the whole stream is lost. > > > OTOH, it renders ZFS send useless for backup or archival

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS dedup success stories?

2011-01-30 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > > We're getting down to 10-20MB/s on Oh, one more thing. How are you measuring the speed? Because if you have data which is highly compressible, or highly duplicated,

Re: [zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS and comstar

2011-01-30 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I'm not personally familiar with with VDI, but it feels like the VDI bits are trying to run pkginfo on a NexentaStor target, which is a syntax error. I'm not sure what the fix for that would be. - Garrett On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 09:37 +, Thierry Delaitre wrote: > Hello, > > I’ve got V

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS dedup success stories?

2011-01-30 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I'm not sure about *docs*, but my rough estimations: Assume 1TB of actual used storage. Assume 64K block/slab size. (Not sure how realistic that is -- it depends totally on your data set.) Assume 300 bytes per DDT entry. So we have (1024^4 / 65536) * 300 = 5033164800 or about 5GB RAM for one TB

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS dedup success stories?

2011-01-30 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > > The test box is a supermicro thing with a Core2duo CPU, 8 gigs of RAM, 4 gigs > of mirrored SLOG and some 150 gigs of L2ARC on 80GB x25-M drives. The > data drives are

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Torrey McMahon
On 1/30/2011 5:26 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Richard Elling wrote: ufsdump is the problem, not ufsrestore. If you ufsdump an active file system, there is no guarantee you can ufsrestore it. The only way to guarantee this is to keep the file system quiesced during the entire ufsdump. Needless

Re: [zfs-discuss] Partitioning ARC

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:21 PM, stuart anderson wrote: > Is it possible to partition the global setting for the maximum ARC size > with finer grained controls? Ideally, I would like to do this on a per > zvol basis but a setting per zpool would be interesting as well? While perhaps not perfect, see

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Richard Elling wrote: > ufsdump is the problem, not ufsrestore. If you ufsdump an active > file system, there is no guarantee you can ufsrestore it. The only way > to guarantee this is to keep the file system quiesced during the entire > ufsdump. Needless to say, this renders ufsdump useless for

Re: [zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS and comstar

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Thierry Delaitre wrote: > Would you recommend a particular distribution to implement a persistent iscsi > server compatible with VDI ? Of course, I will recommend NexentaStor! :-) But I would also recommend NFS over iSCSI, but that is fodder for another forum...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2011-Jan-28 21:37:50 +0800, Edward Ned Harvey > wrote: >> 2- When you want to restore, it's all or nothing. If a single bit is >> corrupt in the data stream, the whole stream is lost. >> >> Regarding point #2, I contend that zfs send is be

Re: [zfs-discuss] multiple disk failure

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2011-Jan-30 13:39:22 +0800, Richard Elling > wrote: >> I'm not sure of the way BSD enumerates devices. Some clever person thought >> that hiding the partition or slice would be useful. > > No, there's no hiding. /dev/ada0 always refers to

[zfs-discuss] ZFS dedup success stories?

2011-01-30 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all As I've said here on the list a few times earlier, the last on the thread 'ZFS not usable (was ZFS Dedup question)', I've been doing some rather thorough testing on zfs dedup, and as you can see from the posts, it wasn't very satisfactory. The docs claim 1-2GB memory usage per terabyte s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Query zfs send objects

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Stuart Anderson wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > >> On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:48 PM, stuart anderson wrote: >> >>> Is there a simple way to query zfs send binary objects for basic >>> information such as: >>> >>> 1) What snapshot they r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2011-Jan-28 21:37:50 +0800, Edward Ned Harvey > wrote: >>2- When you want to restore, it's all or nothing.  If a single bit is >>corrupt in the data stream, the whole stream is lost. >> >>Regarding point #2, I contend that zfs send is bet

Re: [zfs-discuss] multiple disk failure

2011-01-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Jan-30 13:39:22 +0800, Richard Elling wrote: >I'm not sure of the way BSD enumerates devices. Some clever person thought >that hiding the partition or slice would be useful. No, there's no hiding. /dev/ada0 always refers to the entire physical disk. If it had PC-style fdisk slices, ther

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best choice - file system for system

2011-01-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Jan-28 21:37:50 +0800, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >2- When you want to restore, it's all or nothing. If a single bit is >corrupt in the data stream, the whole stream is lost. > >Regarding point #2, I contend that zfs send is better than ufsdump. I would >prefer to discover corruption in t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Partitioning ARC

2011-01-30 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > Is it possible to partition the global setting for the maximum ARC > size > with finer grained controls? Ideally, I would like to do this on a per > zvol basis but a setting per zpool would be interesting as well? > > The use case is to prioritize which zvol devices

[zfs-discuss] Partitioning ARC

2011-01-30 Thread stuart anderson
Is it possible to partition the global setting for the maximum ARC size with finer grained controls? Ideally, I would like to do this on a per zvol basis but a setting per zpool would be interesting as well? The use case is to prioritize which zvol devices should be fully cached in DRAM on a serve

Re: [zfs-discuss] Query zfs send objects

2011-01-30 Thread Stuart Anderson
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:00 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:48 PM, stuart anderson wrote: > >> Is there a simple way to query zfs send binary objects for basic information >> such as: >> >> 1) What snapshot they represent? >> 2) When they where created? >> 3) Whether they are t

Re: [zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS and comstar

2011-01-30 Thread Thierry Delaitre
Would you recommend a particular distribution to implement a persistent iscsi server compatible with VDI ? Thierry. From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 January 2011 16:28 To: Thierry Delaitre Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS an

Re: [zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS and comstar

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 1:37 AM, Thierry Delaitre wrote: > Hello, > > I’ve got VDI 3.2.1 and I’m experiencing ZFS iscsi persistence after rebooting > the ZFS Solaris 10 (s9/10 s10x_u9wos_14a X86) server so I tried to use > NexentaOS_134f as according > to http://sun.systemnews.com/articles/145/5/

Re: [zfs-discuss] multiple disk failure

2011-01-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/30/2011 12:39 AM, Richard Elling wrote: >>> Hmmm, doesnt look good on any of the drives. >> >> I'm not sure of the way BSD enumerates devices. Some clever person thought >> that hiding the partition or slice would be useful. I don't find it

Re: [zfs-discuss] multiple disk failure

2011-01-30 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 1/30/2011 12:39 AM, Richard Elling wrote: >> Hmmm, doesnt look good on any of the drives. > > I'm not sure of the way BSD enumerates devices. Some clever person thought > that hiding the partition or slice would be useful. I don't find it useful. > On a Solaris > system, ZFS can show a disk

[zfs-discuss] VDI, ZFS and comstar

2011-01-30 Thread Thierry Delaitre
Hello, I¹ve got VDI 3.2.1 and I¹m experiencing ZFS iscsi persistence after rebooting the ZFS Solaris 10 (s9/10 s10x_u9wos_14a X86) server so I tried to use NexentaOS_134f as according to http://sun.systemnews.com/articles/145/5/Virtualization/22991, VDI 3.1.1 supports COMSTAR However, with nexent