Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-22 Thread Charles Soto
On 7/22/08 11:48 AM, Erik Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still not convinced that dedup is really worth it for anything but very limited, constrained usage. Disk is just so cheap, that you _really_ have to have an enormous amount of dup before the performance penalties of dedup are

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-07 Thread Charles Soto
A really smart nexus for dedup is right when archiving takes place. For systems like EMC Centera, dedup is basically a byproduct of checksumming. Two files with similar metadata that have the same hash? They're identical. Charles On 7/7/08 4:25 PM, Neil Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-07 Thread Charles Soto
Good points. I see the archival process as a good candidate for adding dedup because it is essentially doing what a stage/release archiving system already does - faking the existence of data via metadata. Those blocks aren't actually there, but they're still accessible because they're

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS deduplication

2008-07-07 Thread Charles Soto
Oh, I agree. Much of the duplication described is clearly the result of bad design in many of our systems. After all, most of an OS can be served off the network (diskless systems etc.). But much of the dupe I'm talking about is less about not using the most efficient system administration

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount failed at boot stops network services.

2008-06-28 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/27/08 8:55 AM, Mark J Musante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, wan_jm wrote: the procedure is follows: 1. mkdir /tank 2. touch /tank/a 3. zpool create tank c0d0p3 this command give the following error message: cannot mount '/tank': directory is not empty; 4. reboot.

Re: [zfs-discuss] raid card vs zfs

2008-06-25 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/25/08 2:50 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is cost. It's still cheaper for someone to buy two quad-port gig-e cards and trunk all the interfaces than it is for them to buy a single 10Gb card. At the moment, this is quite true. Costs per port are going down (even 10Gig) but

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root finally here in SNV90

2008-06-24 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/23/08 7:45 PM, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the ability to have different policies for file systems is pure goodness -- though you pay for it on the backup/ restore side. And another reason why Automated Data Migration is the way to go. Backup and replication schemes

Re: [zfs-discuss] raid card vs zfs

2008-06-23 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/23/08 6:22 AM, Mertol Ozyoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few days a ago a customer tested a Sunfire X4500 connected to a network with 4 x 1 Gbit ethernets. X4500 have modest CPU power and do not use any Raid card. The unit easly performaed 400 MB/sec on write from LAN tests which clearly

Re: [zfs-discuss] memory hog

2008-06-23 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/23/08 6:24 AM, Mertol Ozyoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, ZFS loves memory and unlike most other FS's around it can make good use of memory. But ZFS will free memory if it recognizes that other apps require memory or you can limit the cache ARC will be using. This is an important

Re: [zfs-discuss] memory hog

2008-06-23 Thread Charles Soto
On 6/23/08 11:59 AM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the sad thing is Windows XP / Vista is still 32Bit. It doesn't recognize more then 3.x GB of Ram. 64Bit version is still premature and hardly OEM are adopting it.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-13 Thread Charles Soto
a niche player. As much hype as ZFS snapshots get, that's barely tiptoeing into the managed storage envelope. However, I do appreciate the focus on data integrity. Without that at every tier, ILM cannot properly do its job. Charles - Charles Soto[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [zfs-discuss] Filesystem for each home dir - 10,000 users?

2008-06-13 Thread Charles Soto
or applications. Appropriately, servers reached commodity status before storage. But storage hardware will go that way, and the focus will be on data (storage) management, where it rightfully belongs. Charles - Charles Soto[EMAIL PROTECTED] Director, Information

Re: [zfs-discuss] [caiman-discuss] disk names?

2008-06-09 Thread Charles Soto
will continue to simplify what is now quite obtuse. Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ - Charles Soto[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [zfs-discuss] Per-user home filesystems and OS-X Leopard anomaly

2008-06-08 Thread Charles Soto
to concur. Leopard is the first OS X automounter that actually works as expected. There was zero fiddling with our Solaris 10U5 NFS server (a Thumper). Charles - Charles Soto[EMAIL PROTECTED] Director, Information Technology         TEL: 512-740-1888

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD with multipath

2008-05-23 Thread Charles Soto
The Solaris SAN Configuration and Multipathing Guide proved very helpful for me: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/820-1931/ I, too was surprised to see MPIO enabled by default on x86 (we're using Dell/EMC CX3-40 with our X4500 X6250 systems). Charles Quoting Krutibas Biswal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris SAMBA questions

2008-05-15 Thread Charles Soto
http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss - Charles Soto[EMAIL PROTECTED] Director, Information Technology         TEL: 512-740-1888 The University of Texas at Austin        FAX: 512-475-9711 College of Communication, CMA 5.150G 1