Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-29 Thread R.G. Keen
This is an interesting discussion. It appears that there is indeed some work to be done with manipulating spin up/down on subsections of an array, etc. However, in terms of cost/performance for small systems, it may be simpler to solve this with less programming and more hardware. The cost of a

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-25 Thread R.G. Keen
Jim Sez: > Like many others, I've come close to making a home > NAS server based on > ZFS and OpenSolaris. While this is not an enterprise > solution with high IOPS > expectation, but rather a low-power system for > storing everything I have, > I plan on cramming in some 6-10 5400RPM "Green" > dr

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-23 Thread dan pritts
On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > Thanks for the link, but the main concern in spinning down drives of a ZFS > pool > is that ZFS by default is not so idle. Every 5 to 30 seconds it closes a > transaction > group (TXG) which requires a synchronous write of metadata to disk. I'm r

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread Marion Hakanson
jimkli...@cos.ru said: > Thanks for the link, but the main concern in spinning down drives of a ZFS > pool is that ZFS by default is not so idle. Every 5 to 30 seconds it closes > a transaction group (TXG) which requires a synchronous write of metadata to > disk. You know, it's just going to de

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread Jim Klimov
Thanks for the link, but the main concern in spinning down drives of a ZFS pool is that ZFS by default is not so idle. Every 5 to 30 seconds it closes a transaction group (TXG) which requires a synchronous write of metadata to disk. I mentioned reading many blogs/forums on the matter, and some

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread Orvar Korvar
I read about some guy that shut off his RAID when he didnt use it. And he had a large system disc he used for temporary storage. So he copied everything to the temp storage and immediately shut down the raid. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, November 4, 2009 15:36, Trevor Pretty wrote: > You've been able to spin down drives since about Solaris 8. And thanks for the link to the article. The article specifies SAS and SCSI a lot; does this also apply to SATA? Will anything in serving a ZFS filesystem out via in-kernel CIFS ha

Re: [zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread Trevor Pretty
Kim You've been able to spin down drives since about Solaris 8. http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/articles/disk_power_saving.jsp Jim Klimov wrote: Hello all. Like many others, I've come close to making a home NAS server based on ZFS and OpenSolaris. While this is not an enterpr

[zfs-discuss] (home NAS) zfs and spinning down of drives

2009-11-04 Thread Jim Klimov
Hello all. Like many others, I've come close to making a home NAS server based on ZFS and OpenSolaris. While this is not an enterprise solution with high IOPS expectation, but rather a low-power system for storing everything I have, I plan on cramming in some 6-10 5400RPM "Green" drives with low