Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Khyron
I think the point, Chester, which everyone seems to be dancing around or missing, is that your planning may need to go back to the drawing board on this one. Absorb the resources out there for how to best configure your pools and vdevs, *then* implement. That's the most efficient way to go about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
I guess it's all in what you want. At the end of the day, you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide what is right for you. To me, adding drives in mirrored or raidz groups is a small price to pay for the speed, ease of administration, and data integrity that zfs offers. Snapshots and clones

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Trevor Pretty
Lets not forget despite the fact us lunatic fringe use OpenSolaris on anything we can get our hands on. Sun Microsystems use Solaris to run mission critical environments and adding disk in "chunks" like you have to do in ZFS to a commercial organisation is no big deal. The data is worth far mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Burgess
Why not just do simple mirrored vdevs? or use cheaper 1tb drives for the second vdev? I don't knowit's up to you...To me the benefits of ZFS far outweigh the limitations. Also, in my opinion, when you are expanding your storage, it's a good idea to add it in chunks like this...adding a 4 drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Chester
Thanks for the info so far. Yes, I understand that you can add more vdevs, but at what cost? With the 2TB drives costing $300 each, I wanted to get more or less the bare minimum and then add more drives once I filled the capacity. I understand that raidz1 is similar to RAID5 (it can recover f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-10 Thread Orvar Korvar
Yes, vdevs allow you to expand your zpool. One zpool consists of groups of hard drives. Your zpool consists of one group of drives. That group contains 4 drives that are 2TB. You can easily add another group of drives to your zpool. You can not change the number of discs of a group, but you can

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-09 Thread Thomas Burgess
While it is true that you can not add a single device to a raidz vdev, you can easily add more vdevs, and this is by far the best way to grow because each vdev adds much speed to the array. Raidz is more advanced than raid5, the fact that your card doesn't do the raid calculations is not a limitat

[zfs-discuss] Help: Advice for a NAS

2009-08-09 Thread Chester
Hi guys, Previously, I had three 1TB drives in my desktop using the Intel's southbridge RAID for storage. The only problem with that is every time Windows Vista took a dump, I would be in jeopardy of corrupting the storage space; thus, I decided to have a dedicated machine just for serving up