Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-09-15 Thread Wes Felter
On 8/15/11 12:50 PM, David Magda wrote: On Mon, August 15, 2011 12:25, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On the Intel SSD 320 Series, the spare capacity reserved at the factory is 7% to 11% (depending on the SKU) of the full NAND capacity. For better random write performance and endurance, the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-16 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 01:38:36PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL?  It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Cooper Hubbell
Over provisioning does not directly increase flash performance, but allows for greater reliability as the drive ages by improving garbage collection efforts and reducing write amplification. This article doesn't provide any sources, but it explains the concept at a very basic level -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:53:22PM -0700, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ray Van Dolson For ZIL, I suppose we could get the 300GB drive and overcommit to 95%! What kind of benefit does that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 11, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 01:10:07PM -0700, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/12/11 08:00 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL? It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread David Magda
On Mon, August 15, 2011 12:25, Ray Van Dolson wrote: Perhaps this is it. Pulled the recommendation from Intel's Solid-State Drive 320 Series in Server Storage Applications whitepaper. Section 4.1: [...] On the Intel SSD 320 Series, the spare capacity reserved at the factory is 7% to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL?  It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by increasing the overprovisioning to 20% (dropping usable capacity to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 01:38:36PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Ray Van Dolson rvandol...@esri.com wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL?  It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Ray Van Dolson [mailto:rvandol...@esri.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:26 PM On the Intel SSD 320 Series, the spare capacity reserved at the factory is 7% to 11% (depending on the SKU) of the full NAND capacity. For better random write performance and endurance, the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:24 PM For ZIL, I suppose we could get the 300GB drive and overcommit to 95%! What kind of benefit does that offer? I suppose, if you have a 300G drive and the OS can only see 30G of it, then the drive can

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/14/11 12:51 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com] Have you already tested it? Anybody? Or is it still just theoretical performance enhancement, compared to using a normal sized drive in a normal mode? How would you test it? I guess you would need

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-12 Thread Cooper Hubbell
Which 320 series drive are you targeting, specifically? The ~$100 80GB variant should perform as well as the more expensive versions if your workload is more random from what I've seen/read. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-12 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:17:38PM -0700, Cooper Hubbell wrote: Which 320 series drive are you targeting, specifically? The ~$100 80GB variant should perform as well as the more expensive versions if your workload is more random from what I've seen/read. ESX NFS-attached datastore activity.

[zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-11 Thread Ray Van Dolson
Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL? It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by increasing the overprovisioning to 20% (dropping usable capacity to 80%). Anyone have experience with this? Ray

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-11 Thread Ian Collins
On 08/12/11 08:00 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL? It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by increasing the overprovisioning to 20% (dropping usable capacity to 80%). A log device doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-11 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 01:10:07PM -0700, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/12/11 08:00 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote: Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL? It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by increasing the overprovisioning

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel 320 as ZIL?

2011-08-11 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ray Van Dolson Are any of you using the Intel 320 as ZIL? It's MLC based, but I understand its wear and performance characteristics can be bumped up significantly by increasing the