Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-13 Thread Craig Cory
Run away! Run fast little Netapp. Don't anger the sleeping giant - Oracle! David Magda wrote: > Seems that things have been cleared up: > >> NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP) today announced that both parties have agreed to >> dismiss their pending patent litigation, which began in 2007 between Sun >> Micro

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> >> True. But, I wonder if the settlement sets a precedent? >> > > No precedent has been set. > > > Certainly the lack of a successful lawsuit has *failed* to s

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Bob Friesenhahn > > There should be little doubt that NetApp's goal was to make money by > suing Sun. Nexenta does not have enough income/assets to make a risky > lawsuit worthwhile. But in a

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Garrett D'Amore wrote: True. But, I wonder if the settlement sets a precedent? No precedent has been set. Certainly the lack of a successful lawsuit has *failed* to set any precedent conclusively indicating that NetApp has enforceable patents where ZFS is concerned. Ri

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Erik Trimble
On 9/9/2010 11:11 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:58 -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Erik Trimble wrote: Yes, it's welcome to get it over with. I do get to bitch about one aspect here of the US civil legal system, though. If you've gone so far as to burn

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Miles Nordin
> "dm" == David Magda writes: dm> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/09/oracle_netapp_zfs_dismiss/ http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20050121014650517 says when the MPL was modified to become the CDDL, clauses were removed which would have required Oracle to disclose any p

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Erik Trimble wrote: Yes, it's welcome to get it over with. I do get to bitch about one aspect here of the US civil legal system, though. If you've gone so far as to burn our (the public's) time and money to file a lawsuit, you shouldn't be able to seal up the court transcri

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Erik Trimble
On 9/9/2010 10:25 AM, Richard Elling wrote: This is welcome news. -- richard On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, David Magda wrote: Seems that things have been cleared up: NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP) today announced that both parties have agreed to dismiss their pending patent litigation, which began i

Re: [zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread Richard Elling
This is welcome news. -- richard On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, David Magda wrote: > Seems that things have been cleared up: > >> NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP) today announced that both parties have agreed to >> dismiss their pending patent litigation, which began in 2007 between Sun >> Microsystems and N

[zfs-discuss] NetApp/Oracle-Sun lawsuit done

2010-09-09 Thread David Magda
Seems that things have been cleared up: > NetApp (NASDAQ: NTAP) today announced that both parties have agreed to > dismiss their pending patent litigation, which began in 2007 between Sun > Microsystems and NetApp. Oracle and NetApp seek to have the lawsuits > dismissed without prejudice. The term