Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Khyron
I'm also a Mac user. I use Mozy instead of DropBox, but it sounds like DropBox should get a place at the table. I'm about to download it in a few minutes. I'm right now re-cloning my internal HD due to some HFS+ weirdness. I have to completely agree that ZFS would be a great addition to MacOS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Erik Ableson
Funny, I thought the same thing up until a couple of years ago when I thought Apple should have bought Sun :-) Cordialement, Erik Ableson +33.6.80.83.58.28 Envoyé depuis mon iPhone On 19 mars 2010, at 09:41, Khyron khyron4...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, I'm the only person I know who said

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Khyron wrote: Getting better FireWire performance on OpenSolaris would be nice though. Darwin drivers are open...hmmm. OS-X is only (legally) used on Apple hardware. Has anyone considered that since Firewire is important to Apple, they may have selected a particular

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Alex Blewitt
On 19 Mar 2010, at 15:30, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Khyron wrote: Getting better FireWire performance on OpenSolaris would be nice though. Darwin drivers are open...hmmm. OS-X is only (legally) used on Apple hardware. Has anyone considered that since Firewire is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Khyron
The point I think Bob was making is that FireWire is an Apple technology, so they have a vested interest in making sure it works well on their systems and with their OS. They could even have a specific chipset that they exclusively use in their systems, although I don't see why others couldn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Miles Nordin
k == Khyron khyron4...@gmail.com writes: k FireWire is an Apple technology, so they have a vested k interest in making sure it works well [...] They could even k have a specific chipset that they exclusively use in their k systems, yes, you keep repeating yourselves, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
It would appear that the bus bandwidth is limited to about 10MB/sec (~80Mbps) which is well below the theoretical 400Mbps that 1394 is supposed to be able to handle. I know that these two disks can go significantly higher since I was seeing 30MB/sec when they were used on Macs previously in

[zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread erik.ableson
An interesting thing I just noticed here testing out some Firewire drives with OpenSolaris. Setup : OpenSolaris 2009.06 and a dev version (snv_129) 2 500Gb Firewire 400 drives with integrated hubs for daisy-chaining (net: 4 devices on the chain) - one SATA bridge - one PATA bridge Created a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Thu, March 18, 2010 04:50, erik.ableson wrote: It would appear that the bus bandwidth is limited to about 10MB/sec (~80Mbps) which is well below the theoretical 400Mbps that 1394 is supposed to be able to handle. I know that these two disks can go significantly higher since I was seeing

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread erik.ableson
On 18 mars 2010, at 16:58, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Thu, March 18, 2010 04:50, erik.ableson wrote: It would appear that the bus bandwidth is limited to about 10MB/sec (~80Mbps) which is well below the theoretical 400Mbps that 1394 is supposed to be able to handle. I know that these two

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, erik.ableson wrote: Ditto on the Linux front. I was hoping that Solaris would be the exception, but no luck. I wonder if Apple wouldn't mind lending one of the driver engineers to OpenSolaris for a few months... Perhaps the issue is the filesystem rather than the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread Carson Gaspar
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, erik.ableson wrote: Ditto on the Linux front. I was hoping that Solaris would be the exception, but no luck. I wonder if Apple wouldn't mind lending one of the driver engineers to OpenSolaris for a few months... Perhaps the issue is the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread Scott Meilicke
Apple users have different expectations regarding data loss than Solaris and Linux users do. Come on, no Apple user bashing. Not true, not fair. Scott -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/OSOL/Firewire...

2010-03-18 Thread David Magda
On Mar 18, 2010, at 14:23, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, erik.ableson wrote: Ditto on the Linux front. I was hoping that Solaris would be the exception, but no luck. I wonder if Apple wouldn't mind lending one of the driver engineers to OpenSolaris for a few months...