Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > That's the one that's been an issue for me and my customers - they get billed > back for GB allocated to their servers by the back end arrays. To be more > explicit about the 'self-healing properties' - To deal with any fs > corruption situation that would traditionally

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Miles Nordin
> "vf" == Vincent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: vf> Because arrays & drives can suffer silent errors in the data vf> that are not found until too late. My zpool scrubs vf> occasionally find & FIX errors that none of the array or vf> RAID-5 stuff caught. well, just to make i

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Vincent Fox
> Why would the customer need to use raidz or zfs > mirroring if the array > is doing it for them? As someone else posted, > metadata is already > redundant by default and doesn't consume a ton of > space. Because arrays & drives can suffer silent errors in the data that are not found unti

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Ed Saipetch
> > > That's the one that's been an issue for me and my customers - they > get billed back for GB allocated to their servers by the back end > arrays. > To be more explicit about the 'self-healing properties' - > To deal with any fs corruption situation that would traditionally > require an f

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Gary Mills
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:46:47AM +0100, Robert Milkowski wrote: > >Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:11:01 PM, you wrote: > >I'm currently working out details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to >ZFS on a SAN fabric. I'm interested in hearing how ZFS has behaved in >more tra

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Elling
Brian Wilson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:47 am > Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN > To: Aaron Blew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Brian Wilson
- Original Message - From: Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:47 am Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN To: Aaron Blew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > Hello Aaron, > > > Wednesday, Aug

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Aaron, Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:11:01 PM, you wrote: > All, I'm currently working out details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to ZFS on a SAN fabric.  I'm interested in hearing how ZFS has behaved in more traditional SAN environments using gear that scales vertically like EM

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-20 Thread Vincent Fox
> > All,I'm currently working out > details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to ZFS on a > SAN fabric.  I'm interested in hearing how > ZFS has behaved in more traditional SAN environments > using gear that scales vertically like EMC > Clarion/HDS AMS/3PAR etc.  Do you experience > issues with zp

[zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-20 Thread Aaron Blew
All, I'm currently working out details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to ZFS on a SAN fabric. I'm interested in hearing how ZFS has behaved in more traditional SAN environments using gear that scales vertically like EMC Clarion/HDS AMS/3PAR etc. Do you experience issues with zpool integrity be