Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Linton-Ford
> I haven't done that particular comparison. (zfs send isn't useful for backup > - doesn't span tapes, doesn't hold an index of the files.) But I have compared > it against various varieties of tar for moving data between machines, and > the performance of 'zfs send' wasn't particularly good - I

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Peter, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 7:47:31 PM, you wrote: >> How does 'zfs send' performance compare with a traditional incremental >> backup system? PT> I haven't done that particular comparison. (zfs send isn't useful for backup PT> - doesn't span tapes, doesn't hold an index of the files.)

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Peter Tribble wrote: >> >> What is the cause of the "struggling"? Does the backup host run short of >> RAM or CPU? If backups are incremental, is a large portion of time spent >> determining the changes to be backed up? What is the relative cost of many >> small files vs la

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Tribble
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Peter Tribble wrote: > > > > My experience so far is that anything past a terabyte and 10 million > files, > > and any backup software struggles. > > > > What is the cause of the "struggling"? Does

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Peter Tribble wrote: >> Does anyone here have experience of this with multi-TB filesystems and >> any of these solutions that they'd be willing to share with me please? > > My experience so far is that anything past a terabyte and 10 million files, > and any backup software s

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Anna Langley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've just joined this list, and am trying to understand the state of > play with using free backup solutions for ZFS, specifically on a Sun > x4500. ... > Does anyone here have experience of this with multi-TB filesyst

Re: [zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-17 Thread Ross
I had a brief look into this too. I'm a solaris newbie, but the best solution looked to be tar, or something called Star. Our plan is to use ZFS send/receive to back the data up onto live server storage. But for tape archives I actually want to use a completely different filesystem. If somet

[zfs-discuss] backup for x4500?

2008-04-16 Thread Anna Langley
Dear All, I've just joined this list, and am trying to understand the state of play with using free backup solutions for ZFS, specifically on a Sun x4500. The x4500 we have is used as a file store, serving clients using NFS only. I'm handling the issue of recovery of accidentally deleted f