Re: [ZION] Education - WAS Might Makes Right? Wrong

2002-09-25 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
>At 12:42 PM 9/24/2002, JWR wrote: > >>Tell me, when does a recession become a depression? When you lose YOUR job (speaking generically of course) Till / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www

[ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
I thought that the complete Church Magazines and the LDS scriptures were available on a CD-ROM. Am I wrong? At LDS.org I found the scriptures, but I can't find the Ensign on CD. Any suggestions? Your friend and brother, John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread Bill Woodford
I have the software in front of me. It was purchased at the Distribution Center in Salt Lake in August, 2001. It is titled "LDS Church Magazines 1971-1999" The bar code on the back is 02500 0 A really awesome resource. My daughter prefers to access the information via the LDS.org website.

RE: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 11:23 AM 9/25/02 -0400 Bill Woodford favored us with: >I have the software in front of me. It was purchased at the >Distribution Center in Salt Lake in August, 2001. > >It is titled "LDS Church Magazines 1971-1999" > >The bar code on the back is 02500 0 > >A really awesome resource. My da

Re: [ZION] Some Bible humour

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
A Globe and Mail article talked about students at U of Rotterdam "manning the dykes" in protest. I couldn't stop laughing, and wrote them a letter to the editor, saying, "aren't spell-chequers wonderful?" They either thought it was too minor or they really can't spell down there in the centre of

RE: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread Larry Jackson
John Redelfs: I thought that the complete Church Magazines and the LDS scriptures were available on a CD-ROM. Am I wrong? At LDS.org I found the scriptures, but I can't find the Ensign on CD. Any suggestions? ___ Church Magazines 1971-1999 on CD: Go to www.lds.org and select

RE: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 06:28 PM 9/25/02 + Larry Jackson favored us with: >Church Magazines 1971-1999 on CD: > >Go to www.lds.org and select Order Church Materials. >Drill down through the following links: > >Individual Shopper >Magazines >Supplies (at the bottom, do not select one of the magazines) >Other > >Abou

[ZION] recession become a depression?

2002-09-25 Thread Michael L
Steven Montgomery wrote: > At 12:42 PM 9/24/2002, JWR wrote: > > >Tell me, when does a recession become a depression? > > > >Your friend and brother, > >John W. Redelfs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > We are in a depression now. > > A recession is when your neighbor looses his job. It is a depression

[ZION] Right Makes Right? Wrong

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Once more into the breach: The U.S. Americans defined the legal limits of pre-emptive self-defence more than 150 years ago, says historian Greg Wigmore Are they now flouting their own guidelines? <

RE: [ZION] Might makes right? Wrong.

2002-09-25 Thread Michael L
I have been out of the loop for a few days, so I don't know if this subject has come up. . . Does anyone else see the arrogance the US is using in their foreign policy in asking Israel to back off of Arafat (spelling incorrectly, sorry) when they are constantly experiencing suicide bombers un

RE: [ZION] Might makes right? Wrong.

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 07:43 PM 9/25/02 + Michael L favored us with: Does anyone else see the arrogance the US is using in their foreign policy in asking Israel to back off of Arafat (spelling incorrectly, sorry) when they are constantly experiencing suicide bombers under his direction in order "not to put at r

Re: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread Jon Spencer
If I remember correctly, this CD was pulled prior to the mags becoming available on the web. I could not find it online. My suggestion is to call the distribution center at 1-800-537-5971 Jon - Original Message - From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

[ZION] War with Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
And yet Hussein supports Islamic terrorists. He offers $25K to every family of a suicide bomber. He has portrayed himself in the recent past as the modern world's Suleiman. He envisions a giant regional Islamic power, with him at the helm. That is why he tried taking Iran and Kuwait, with eyes on

[ZION] Education

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
We are far short of a depression. We only have 5% unemployment, and the economy is rather stable. A depression means our Gross Domestic Product would shrink by over 75%. The stock market has done some shrinking, but our economy is not. And even the markets have stabilized. The Dow is staying above

[ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
I hope we bomb the right people, also. However, it isn't always easy to draw the line in the right place. Was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki justified? Must we have lost one million American soldiers invading Japan, just to keep from wiping out 300,000 Japanese people? I think we have bee

[ZION] Might makes right? Wrong.

2002-09-25 Thread Gary Smith
I could easily have started earlier, but the scriptures state we only need to wait through 4 attempts by the enemy, prior to having justified war. I suppose I could have included the several Hi-Jackings of the 1970s, the Khobar Towers being brought down, I seem to recall a cruise ship or two being

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Japan attacked you first, so your agonizing over Hiroshima doesn't even enter into the picture. There are no "right" people to bomb in Iraq. Gary Smith wrote: > I hope we bomb the right people, also. However, it isn't always easy to > draw the line in the right place. Was the bombing of Hiroshim

Re: [ZION] War with Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Gary Smith wrote: > And yet Hussein supports Islamic terrorists. He offers $25K to every > family of a suicide bomber. Do you have any proof of that? > He has portrayed himself in the recent past > as the modern world's Suleiman. He envisions a giant regional Islamic Husseinis a secular pan-

Re: [ZION] Might makes right? Wrong.

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Gary Smith wrote: > I could easily have started earlier, but the scriptures state we only > need to wait through 4 attempts by the enemy, prior to having justified > war. I suppose I could have included the several Hi-Jackings of the > 1970s, Which planes did Iraq hijack in the 1970s? > the K

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
Gary Smith favored us with: >> Hussein may not be directly involved in the past attacks, but is part of >> a growing regional problem. Given what we know of history, if a new Nazi >> party arose in Germany, and Jews started disappearing into concentration >> camps; would you suggest we wait until

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Dan R Allen
Dan: Saddam may not have ordered the attacks, but it is very likely that he was involved in the planning, or financial and intel support. http://www.cnsnews.com/Pentagon/Archive/200109/PEN20010925a.html "the CIA is looking into whether one of the suicide pilots in the Sept. 11 attacks - Moha

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Especially because the "Islamic World" includes France, Germany, Britain, Canada...and the United States now. John's more than right: there is no place to hide. "John W. Redelfs" wrote: > Gary Smith favored us with: > >> Hussein may not be directly involved in the past attacks, but is part of >

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 05:13 PM 9/25/02 -0700 Dan R Allen favored us with: >Dan: >Saddam MAY NOT have ordered the attacks, but it is very LIKELY that he was >involved in the planning, or financial and intel support. > http://www.cnsnews.com/Pentagon/Archive/200109/PEN20010925a.html >"the CIA is LOOKING INTO

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Paul Osborne
John said: >I don't know what is going on. None of my information sources are reliable. I don't >know of any reliable information sources. But I smell a rat. Something is rotten in >Copenhagen. Taken out of context, it sounds like you are one poor lost soul. ;-) Here, have some chocolate

RE: [ZION] Looking for Software

2002-09-25 Thread larry . jackson
John Redelfs: Thanks Larry. I knew it had to be their somewhere. But I was having fits trying to find it. ___ You're welcome. Actually, I'm kind of hoping they run out of CDs and make a new one that goes through 2002. [grin] Larry Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __

Re: [ZION] War on Iraq

2002-09-25 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Aman is one of Israel's 5 intelligence agencies (military intelligence, or in Hebrew, Agaf ha-Modi'in). It is also the name of a news agency in the Middle East. Israel's best-known intelligence service is known as Mossad. There's also Shin Bet, Lekem and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' Centre for