Re: [ZION] Definition of liberal

2002-10-25 Thread Cousin Bill
At some point in the past, Gary wrote: here's a stump question: Can anyone tell me the name of the Democratic Georgia Senator who tends to vote frequently with the Republicans and Bush? (I know the answer, and I can tell you that if there were more guys in the Democratic party like him- who

Re: [ZION] Definition of liberal

2002-10-24 Thread Marc A. Schindler
This is more of the meaning it still has in Europe, and to a certain extent, in Canada, although Canada, as in so many things, is halfway between. It has more of the US meaning here in Alberta, but it has the European meaning more in Ontario, where I lived for 14 years on two different occasions.

[ZION] Definition of liberal

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
Unfortunately, it is what Liberal now means in the US. It used to be that liberal was one that sought to help the underdog with smart assistance from government, while ensuring the freedoms of the average joe. But the term liberal has been co-opted by fringe groups in the US. Gore is a perfect

Re: [ZION] Definition of liberal

2002-10-23 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:25 PM 10/23/2002, you wrote: Unfortunately, it is what Liberal now means in the US. It used to be that liberal was one that sought to help the underdog with smart assistance from government, while ensuring the freedoms of the average joe. But the term liberal has been co-opted by fringe