[Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-02 Thread Ken Ara
Hi all, My Zope is stuck like never before. With my server on another continent, 8 hours time difference, and on a Sunday, I am pulling out my few remaining hairs... Our box runs FreeBSD 5, Zope 2.78 (if I remember correctly) and Squid. The ISP has been preparing for a move and shifted some mac

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 2. September 2006 23:43:50 -0700 Ken Ara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, My Zope is stuck like never before. With my server on another continent, 8 hours time difference, and on a Sunday, I am pulling out my few remaining hairs... Our box runs FreeBSD 5, Zope 2.78 (if I remember corr

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-03 Thread Ken Ara
Thanks Andreas, I am logged in as root user. Here is the result of 'top': last pid: 77998; load averages: 0.01, 0.06, 0.06 up 0+15:03:27 04:06:22 18 processes: 1 running, 11 sleeping, 5 stop

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. September 2006 01:18:55 -0700 Ken Ara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Andreas, I am logged in as root user. Here is the result of 'top': "top" is *not* the right tool to check for processes. Use "ps"!!! I was able to kill one of the Zope processes but not pid 945. Maybe it was

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-03 Thread Ken Ara
Actually, I need to read up on the netstat command. Have a look: geneva# netstat -anp netstat: option requires an argument -- p usage: netstat [-AaLnSW] [-f protocol_family | -p protocol] [-M core] [-N system] netstat -i | -I interface [-abdnt] [-f address_family]

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-03 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 3. September 2006 01:56:44 -0700 Ken Ara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, I need to read up on the netstat command. Have a look: geneva# netstat -anp netstat: option requires an argument -- p Please read the man page for netstat (man netstat). Nobody has all options for all program

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ken Ara wrote at 2006-9-2 23:43 -0700: > ... >I can't restart or stop Zope - >'/usr/local/www/Zope/zope01/bin/zopectl stop' just >produces '' for a long time - should I wait? I >was unable to kill one of the python2.3 processes, and >can't even reboot the machine, using 'shutdown -r >now',

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-04 Thread Ken Ara
You are right, Dieter. The ISP network admin had to restart the machine. There seems to be no way to power down and then power up the machine remotely. Fortunately everything worked out. Thanks. --- Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Ara wrote at 2006-9-2 23:43 -0700: > > ... > >I ca

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Ken Ara
One and a half days later, I am again unable to stop, restart or kill Zope. My ISP host is making changes on their network and I believe the problem is with them. I am in a FreeBSD jail, sharing the machine with a DNS server. It's 3am over there, and I wish I could do something while waiting for th

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Chris Withers
Ken Ara wrote: One and a half days later, I am again unable to stop, restart or kill Zope. My ISP host is making changes on their network and I believe the problem is with them. I am in a FreeBSD jail, sharing the machine with a DNS server. It's 3am over there, and I wish I could do something whi

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 05 September 2006 3:58 am, Chris Withers wrote: > Move hosters. FreeBSD for all its robustness is not something I'd > recommend running Zope on... Seriously? Why so? I've been running Zope exclusively on FreeBSD since 2001 without any known problems. -- Kirk Strauser The Day Compan

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Ken Ara
OK, once again, after many hours of costly down time, we have restarted our Zope machine. Chris, could state your reasons for recommending against FreeBSD? I have had no trouble in over five years that I can directly attribute to FreeBSD, but I am open-minded. That said, I don't mean to reopen the

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. September 2006 07:47:05 -0700 Ken Ara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, once again, after many hours of costly down time, we have restarted our Zope machine. Chris, could state your reasons for recommending against FreeBSD? I have had no trouble in over five years that I can directly att

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ken Ara wrote at 2006-9-5 01:14 -0700: > ... >and I can't even restart the machine with the >shutdown command. If you cannot shutdown your system, then something seriously is wrong with it. It will have nothing to do with Zope. You may try the "reboot" command. It is similar to "shutdown" but sta

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Ken Ara wrote at 2006-9-5 07:47 -0700: >... >Of immediate concern to me is whether I can do >anything to prevent this happening again. From time to >time, my Zope hangs, usually because of an attack by a >bad robot requesting lots of complex pages and sending >no-cache headers. Then I am able to re

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-06 Thread Ken Ara
Thank you, Dieter, for your valuable insights and information. I am forwarding this to my ISP. --- Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Ara wrote at 2006-9-5 07:47 -0700: > >... > >Of immediate concern to me is whether I can do > >anything to prevent this happening again. From time > to

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-06 Thread Chris Withers
Andreas Jung wrote: This remark was just stupid. There is nothing with BSD except there are some known issues you need to consider when compiling Python (at least there were some issues in the past). Sorry, I disagree. Look back over the list archives, it seems common for people to have prob

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-07 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2006-9-6 10:59 +0100: >Andreas Jung wrote: >> >> This remark was just stupid. There is nothing with BSD except >> there are some known issues you need to consider when compiling Python >> (at least there were some issues in the past). > >Sorry, I disagree. > >Look back over

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-13 Thread Ken Ara
I have a new problem but it's related, so I'll keep this thread alive. To recap: possibly due to some network problems at my hosting provider, my Zope would periodically stop responding and I was unable to stop, restart or kill it, or even restart the machine remotely. I am operating within a Free

Re: [Zope] Can't stop Zope, machine hanging

2006-09-13 Thread Chris McDonough
On Sep 13, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Ken Ara wrote: I have a new problem but it's related, so I'll keep this thread alive. To recap: possibly due to some network problems at my hosting provider, my Zope would periodically stop responding and I was unable to stop, restart or kill it, or even restart th