[Zope] Zope zserver-threads minimum is 5?

2014-11-10 Thread Pablo Caro Revuelta
Hi all, My zope clients (Zope2-2.12.11) allways start with 5 theads although zserver-threads is 2 in my zope.conf file. I am using ps -eLf for theads counter. If for zserver-threads I use the values 1, 2 or 3 I get 5 theads. A higher value give me 2 threads more. I mean, for 4 I get 6, for 15,

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-02-01 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jake wrote at 2006-1-31 15:53 -0500: Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach to threads? That's something proposed several times in the list. In our installation, we used the default (4 threads) for a long time -- until we met overload situations (all 4 threads in

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jake
I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have bigger caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2). Jake ___ http://www.ZopeZone.com On Mon, January 30, 2006 5:47 pm, Jens Vagelpohl said:

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jake
http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size There it was. Jake ___ http://www.ZopeZone.com On Tue, January 31, 2006 9:59 am, Jake said: I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites,

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 14:59, Jake wrote: I just spent a few minutes googling it and failed, but I thought I read on the Zope wiki that for higher trafic sites, it was better to have bigger caches (50,000+) and fewer threads (2). The term high traffic site doesn't mean a thing when it comes

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote: http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size That article contains little information to back up the conclusions, and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half- thruths being propagated by well-meaning but

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 31. Januar 2006 12:32:35 -0500 Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache size, like a table. RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size 2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000 5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000 Such a table is pretty much

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jake
It would be nice if someone post some guidelines for threads and cache size, like a table. RAM / Hits / Threads / Cache Size 2 GB / 20,000,000 / 3 / 50,000 5 GB / 20,000,000 / 5 / 100,000 Jake ___ http://www.ZopeZone.com On Tue, January 31, 2006 10:05 am, Jens Vagelpohl

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +: On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote: http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size That article contains little information to back up the conclusions, and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half- thruths

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jake
Well, I have been using Zope for over 6 years and I still don't think I have mastered what is truly best other than get a good server, with a lot of RAM and bump up your threads * cache to use up about 50% of it. Jake ___ http://www.ZopeZone.com On Tue, January 31, 2006

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Jake
Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach to threads? Here is what I have been using: - Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2) - RH Linux - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz - 2GB DDR RAM - 120,000 hits a day - 392,036 objects in database - 2 threads - 100,000 object cache size This

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-31 Thread Floyd May
On 1/31/06, Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach tothreads?Here is what I have been using:- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)- RH Linux- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz- 2GB DDR RAM - 120,000 hits a day- 392,036 objects in database- 2 threads-

[Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-30 Thread Einar Næss Jensen
how many do I need, and how will I know? -- -- Einar Næss Jensen http://einar.nidelven-it.no/einarblog http://www.homemade.no tlf: +47 90990249 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope] zserver-threads

2006-01-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 30 Jan 2006, at 22:43, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: how many do I need, and how will I know? You do not need to worry about it unless you have a really unusual setup. The default is fine for 99.9% of all situations. jens ___ Zope maillist -

RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-05 Thread Pascal Peregrina
Thanks, I will try that ;) -Message d'origine- De : Dieter Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mercredi 4 janvier 2006 19:52 À : Pascal Peregrina Cc : Jens Vagelpohl; zope list user Objet : RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question Pascal Peregrina wrote at 2006-1-4 13:34

RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Pascal Peregrina
Objet : Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:34, Pascal Peregrina wrote: I understand. So what is the typical value to use for pool-size given a certain threads number: n+3 ? There is no typical value. Changing the thread number and pool size puts you

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:53, Pascal Peregrina wrote: Because I use ZEO, I got lots of often modified objects, and on Zope servers I got lots of memory so I can give it a try ;) Where do you see the gain? More threads and connection also means more caches that need to be updated/invalidated

RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Pascal Peregrina
janvier 2006 15:02 À : zope list user Objet : Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question On 4 Jan 2006, at 13:53, Pascal Peregrina wrote: Because I use ZEO, I got lots of often modified objects, and on Zope servers I got lots of memory so I can give it a try ;) Where do you see the gain

Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 4 Jan 2006, at 14:11, Pascal Peregrina wrote: So, are you telling me that the ideal configuration is using all default values (connection objects cache size, ZEO cache size, threads and connection pool)? The default values for thread number and connection pool covers all but the most

RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Pascal Peregrina
Ok, much clearer now... I might focus on cache sizes then. Thanks. Pascal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Jens Vagelpohl Envoyé : mercredi 4 janvier 2006 15:17 À : zope list user Objet : Re: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size

RE: [Zope] ZServer threads and pool-size question

2006-01-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Pascal Peregrina wrote at 2006-1-4 13:34 -: I understand. So what is the typical value to use for pool-size given a certain threads number: n+3 ? It depends on how intensively you are using additional (application level) threads: Each thread using persistent objects requires in general