Re: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE

2001-10-11 Thread Robert Rottermann
I had this once (the slowing down) when an other process was eating up all memory and zope was constantly paged out. Robert - Original Message - From: "Andre Schubert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "zope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE

[Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE

2001-10-11 Thread Andre Schubert
Hi all, i have serious problems with my zope. Last time he dies very often with error code 13,and since to today he slows down extremly. To view the Control_Panel/DebugForm it takes up to 1 minute and thats not acceptable. How can i track down these problems. I run Zope-2.2.4 on Immunix-RedHat

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phil Harris
Hmhm, that is cool, I'll take another look then :) - Original Message - From: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted > Phil Harris wrote: > > > T

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL2.0

2001-10-11 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Kapil Thangavelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Only a little bit more arm twisting needs to be done > > in order for RMS to approve ZPL 2.0 as GPL > > compatable. We're very close, it's just sometimes, > > "tricky" to get a straight answer when speaking

[Zope-dev] Zope on Apache (Zapache? Zopache?)

2001-10-11 Thread Don Hopkins
Michel Pelletier proposes an interesting idea, of integrating Zope with Apache 2.0. That sounds like a really great idea with many upsides -- especially because you could write all kinds of interesting Apache extensions in Python. Has anyone written that idea up, or discussed it on other mailing l

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL2.0

2001-10-11 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
> Only a little bit more arm twisting needs to be done > in order for RMS to approve ZPL 2.0 as GPL > compatable. We're very close, it's just sometimes, > "tricky" to get a straight answer when speaking in > legal terms. and there was much rejoicing:) seriously, i'll buy a round for those invol

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
take a chill pill. i'm *just* asking for a clarification about gpl-compatiblity. i'm not asking for zope to be released under the gpl. why, because there are alot of quality gpl programs that i would like to legally use and integrate with zope. specifically in this case aolserver. just as bad a

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:28:32 -0700 kapil thangavelu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks for the license clarification. > > i didn't mean to suggest that its not a good idea to work on it. > > i was hoping that someone from zc would give some sort of status update to > paul's statements from

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Don Hopkins
People waste much more time arguing about the GPL license, than it would take for them to completely rewrite the entire Python and Zope code base from scratch under the GPL. So if you can't live with a non-GPL license, then instead of arguing about it, get yourself to work rewriting a new system f

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread kapil thangavelu
On Thursday 11 October 2001 03:30 am, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: > kapil thangavelu wrote: > > twisted is GPL and zope is not gpl compatible and that does not appear to > > be changing despite some mention from zc about trying to achieve > > compatiblity. > > Twisted is LGPL, and it might be po

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPublisher/ZServer interaction (was Re: A modest proposal)

2001-10-11 Thread kapil thangavelu
On Wednesday 10 October 2001 07:16 pm, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 08:00 AM 10/10/01 -0700, kapil thangavelu wrote: > >hopefully we get some new religion in the publisher, please... > > Hmm... Check out: > > http://cvs.eby-sarna.com/pylib/ZLite/ > > Specifically, the ZPlumbing module, for severa

Re: [Zope-dev] GUF and SQL

2001-10-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Andre Schubert wrote: > I'am using GUF with ZSqlMethods and found out, that every time a object > is accessed the sql-method is called, [...] > Is there a why to implement such a AUTHENTICATION-String cache in the > GUF-Product, it brings a lot of performance, when using GUF w

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Andy McKay
Going by the general rule that explicit is good and implicit is bad. I would disagree with this. ZSQL Methods do have some oddities in the lookup that seem strange, but making it more "magical" is a path to ruin. Cheers. -- Andy McKay. ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Phil Harris wrote: > That said, I think JPE/PJE is the best way forward, but this problem needs > to be solved (if it hasn't already). Latest CVS README says: Multithreading == Multithreading issues are taken care of. There is still a known issues concerning process termination (non

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phil Harris
Been there, done that. JPE (as it was originally known, Java Python Extensions), has a fatal flaw, at most one JVM can be attached to a Python script at any one time, this single instance attaches itself to a single thread, and is not available in any other thread. I've had this working with Zop

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Tim Hoffman
There is another approach however for getting Java and Zope together A few weeks back I was mucking around with the Python Java Extension (see Python 9 proceedings) and was able to interact with Java classes/instances directly from Zope by calling ExternalMethods. PJE basically allows the Java

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Casey Duncan
On Thursday 11 October 2001 07:29 am, you wrote: > I've been asked too many times now by developers what is wrong when they > call ZSQL Methods without passing parameters because their parameters > are in the namespace. This seems to make sense to all new Zopers (and > some older ones like myself

RE: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Zwarts
I figured that I could be relatively safe by using heavy sessioning. First I started with SQLSession, and now CST... Tips I do: 1) Create all formbased applications by folders. In otherwords /folder/Support is actually the folder and you always put the root logic into index_html 2) The index

RE: [Zope-dev] Component model, webservices and xmlrpc?

2001-10-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
> I just had to let someone access some RDBS data easily. Its > already used in > zope so I figured the easiest way was xmlrpc to the SQLMethod. > Of course it wasn't that simple since sqlmethods return results > set classes > which are not marshalable via xmlrpc. In the end I had to write a pytho

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Component Architecture / A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:52 PM 10/11/01 +0200, Jean Jordaan wrote: >Hi all > >I don't know if you're all familiar with this already, but reading >about Twisted didn't immediately bring to mind Medusa, but rather >certain aspects (specifically, *aspects*) of TransWarp, and of the >Component Architecture (interfaces).

[Zope-dev] Import I/O error

2001-10-11 Thread a32955
I've exported a folder from a 2.3.0 Zope installation and am trying to import the reulting myfile.zexp into a 2.4.1 installation on a different machine. This causes an IOError as documented below. The problem seems to have something to do with changing the ownership. Choosing 'Take ownership

Re: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken.

2001-10-11 Thread Anthony Baxter
> > For the URL http://ekit-host.ekorp.com:8880/HelpSys/menu > This URL is not reachable Yes, that's right. It's an internal system. > I can't reproduce this problem with a fresh 2.4 checkout. Maybe they are > running > some 2.4 alpha oder beta version. This functionality in the released Zop

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
>>> Anyway, I propose that ZSQLMethods change and do variable lookups in the >>> entire namespace, not just the REQUEST object. It seems to be a simple >>> enough change (at least it looks it) and I can submit the patches, but >>> the harder thing is to get people to agree that it is a change fo

Re: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken.

2001-10-11 Thread Andreas Jung
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 03:52 Subject: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken. > Someone's busted the help system recently. On a system running the > current Zope-2_4-branch, I get:

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I can speak about this one... The difficult part of getting Zope to work on Java, IMHO, is not the server. Without too terribly much work, I think you could get a servlet in front of Zope (once you've taken care of all of the other things). We've made some progress toward getting Zope running on

[Zope-dev] RE: Component Architecture / A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Jean Jordaan
Hi all I don't know if you're all familiar with this already, but reading about Twisted didn't immediately bring to mind Medusa, but rather certain aspects (specifically, *aspects*) of TransWarp, and of the Component Architecture (interfaces). I'm including a bite from http://twistedmatrix.

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Tim McLaughlin
I agree. However, this is true of all DTML. I mean, its just as true in DTML methods that might REQUEST.set the args to the ZSQLMethod. ie. they could be tricked into REQUEST.set(ing) a false total etc. because they lookup all of their variables in the namespace. Cheers, Tim Paul Zwarts wrote

RE: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Zwarts
Hi Tim, Just to play devil's advocate; It seems this way, that methods pulling non-specifically from namespace could allow ways to modify the result if someone paid close attention to whats going on... i.e The total price of your shopping cart before its sent to the transaction broker. It require

[Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Tim McLaughlin
I've been asked too many times now by developers what is wrong when they call ZSQL Methods without passing parameters because their parameters are in the namespace. This seems to make sense to all new Zopers (and some older ones like myself) because all other DTML lookups are in the entire namesp

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
kapil thangavelu wrote: > twisted is GPL and zope is not gpl compatible and that does not appear to be > changing despite some mention from zc about trying to achieve compatiblity. Twisted is LGPL, and it might be possible to license it under something that will work with ZPL. I don't think th

[Zope-dev] GUF and SQL

2001-10-11 Thread Andre Schubert
Hi all, I'am using GUF with ZSqlMethods and found out, that every time a object is accessed the sql-method is called, which means to me that if i have many objects in my dtml-doc, then it takes a long time it is rendered. Thats why i wrote a little Product, which has a AccessRule that makes User

[Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken.

2001-10-11 Thread Anthony Baxter
Someone's busted the help system recently. On a system running the current Zope-2_4-branch, I get: For the URL http://ekit-host.ekorp.com:8880/HelpSys/menu No error message. Error type: TypeError Error value: Catalog addIndex now requires the index type to be resolved prior to a