Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 09:24:09AM -0800, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 19 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: > > Using the 'reversal of dependency' (not sure whether this is the > > accurate English term) > > I think it is called "dependency injection". There's the Dependency Inversion P

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Dieter Maurer
Christian Theune wrote at 2009-1-19 17:13 +0100: > ... >> You could use the same arguments with respect to the global "site" ;-) >> But few people in Zope 3 land separate "site" dependent and "site" >> independent code despite some cases where the global "site" does >> make problems. > >Using the '

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 19 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: >> Using the 'reversal of dependency' (not sure whether this is the >> accurate English term) > > I think it is called "dependency injection". I think maybe "inversion" is th

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-19 Thread Uli Fouquet
Hi there, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Uli Fouquet wrote: > > I'd be glad to provide a fix for this, but I am undecided how we could > > support administrators best to upgrade their password bases. > > I'm speaking here mostly from a position of ignorance of these affairs, > but is it possible to u

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Theune
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:24:09 -0800 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 19 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: > > Using the 'reversal of dependency' (not sure whether this is the > > accurate English term) > > I think it is called "dependency injection". Thanks. Now, that you mention it ... C

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > Uli Fouquet wrote: >> I'd be glad to provide a fix for this, but I am undecided how we could >> support administrators best to upgrade their password bases. > > I'm speaking here mostly from a position of ignora

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 19 January 2009, Christian Theune wrote: > Using the 'reversal of dependency' (not sure whether this is the > accurate English term) I think it is called "dependency injection". Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. "Zope Stephan R

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Uli Fouquet wrote: > I'd be glad to provide a fix for this, but I am undecided how we could > support administrators best to upgrade their password bases. I'm speaking here mostly from a position of ignorance of these affairs, but is it possible to upgrade the current passwords to a mo

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Theune
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:29:40 +0100 "Dieter Maurer" wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote at 2009-1-18 11:38 -0500: > > ... > >I don't actually know how this package fits in with either Z2 or > >Z3: Z2 apps are always able to acquire the request, > > This is not the case for "localsitemanager" delivered lo

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Roger Ineichen wrote: [snip] > Why should someone use a global request if he has a request > available? This package does nothing else then offer a request > if non is available. And if you need a request if non is available > there is something wrong with the application design. Or bet

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andreas Jung wrote: > On 17.01.2009 8:39 Uhr, Dieter Maurer wrote: [snip] >> It is good to be able to access both "site" and "request" in >> a standard way. > > And it similiar accessing the current transaction using > > import transaction > tx = transaction.get() > > So: +1 +1 too. For Zope 2

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Oh joy, a naming discussion. :) A namespace isn't a framework. Be careful we don't start pretending that the zope.* namespace is a framework. If you start judging which packages belong in the zope.* namespace and which are not, what standards are really being used? The only standard

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope-tests] UNKNOWN : Zope[2.buildout]-trunk Python-2.5.2 : Linux

2009-01-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan H. Holek wrote: > Enough! > > I have put a copy of docutils-0.4.tar.gz on the test server and point > buildout at it via ~/.buildout/default.cfg. Thanks! Tres. - -- === Tres S

Re: [Zope-dev] Release zc.selenium on pypi

2009-01-19 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
On 2009-01-07 14:32:07 +0100, "Benji York" said: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Christian Zagrodnick wrote: >> there is zc.selenium on svn.zope.org which is not on pypi. Could this >> be released? > > Yes. > >> Also it speaks of the ZVLS in some files which doesn't >> seem to be correct. >

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Unknown

2009-01-19 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Jan 18 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Mon Jan 19 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Unknown --- Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope[2.buildout]-trunk Python-2.5.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Sun Jan 18 20:55:42 EST 2009 URL: http:

Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope-tests] UNKNOWN : Zope[2.buildout]-trunk Python-2.5.2 : Linux

2009-01-19 Thread Stefan H. Holek
Enough! I have put a copy of docutils-0.4.tar.gz on the test server and point buildout at it via ~/.buildout/default.cfg. Stefan On 19.01.2009, at 02:55, Zope Tests wrote: > Zope Tests : UNKNOWN > Zope[2.buildout]-trunk Python-2.5.2 : Linux > > Running /usr/local/python2.5/bin/python ./bin/t