is still whether it should still
be in ZTK - providing DTML as an example suggests that this really is a
Zope only library. Do you see use for it outside the Zope context?
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Why on earth are you do want to do that?
bin/pip install Zope2 works fine.
Note, unless you have a clear idea of exactly what you want to do it's
unusual to install Zope directly like that and Zope is a little too big
just to try out.
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Am 06.12.2012, 17:14 Uhr, schrieb peppe scuglia :
What version of zope you recommends for python 2.6.6?
Thanks again for your disponibility
The current version of Zope is 2.13.19
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12. Zope 2.8 is no longer
supported.
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Am 30.11.2012, 18:21 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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Let me explain: in pdb I have access to request.form which is where I
can see the difference. With Sentry I can only see the raw body of the
request. I may simply have not understood well enough how to use it to
inspect what's happ
Am 30.11.2012, 09:37 Uhr, schrieb Adam GROSZER :
Opera? which version and OS and whatnot?
12.12 on Mac OS 10.7.5
As originally noted, I don't have the problem in the same browser with an
extremely similar form on a different site.
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hich were
related to the accept_charset not being sent and Zope making a bad guess.
I can reproduce the error without difficulty in Opera. I'm going to try a
new instance of the site and see how that behaves.
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machine.
Any ideas?
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Am 29.11.2012, 09:43 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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No.
expression / list comprehension? I could
say for Python 3 compatibility but that doesn't matter so much as there is
no easy way for the isinstance(t, basestring)
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. It's nice to see that ideas for Zope's
future are crystallising.
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my time most of the time, but it's
still a potential (and occasional real) time suck for me that I'd
love to jettison.
This is a very good reason to examine the services of a commercial
provider (independently of the discussion or what tools are required or
desirable).
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Am 20.08.2012, 12:50 Uhr, schrieb Robert Niederreiter :
On 20.08.2012 12:39, Charlie Clark wrote:
Am 20.08.2012, 12:27 Uhr, schrieb Robert Niederreiter
:
There are lots of very famous os projects hostet on github - which -
without any doubt raises the reputation of github itself.
ah, the
feels like a pretty real threat to me.
Again, as Jens has repeatedly said we should not conflate the separate
items of toolchain and service provider. Zope Foundation has hardware and
a proven track record in hosting. Is anyone actually criticising this?
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Am 20.08.2012, 11:09 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro :
Such as?
As previously noted: the T&C's in particular the indemnification clause.
Plus, the usual when dealing with an apparently free service provided by a
company beholden to VC's.
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be considered as a fork. It
currently feels very much cloak & dagger.
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es in ZCML? Most of
my code sits upon CMF so I hope I should be reasonably insulated through
that.
But the change is probably a good thing™ so thanks in advance.
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pp.zcmlfiles is
installed)?
No, having apps trying to guess about their use as library code is a bad
idea and should not be encouraged.
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Am 05.04.2012, 22:36 Uhr, schrieb Tres Seaver :
Unless the community's consensus is against the branch, I plan to merge
it to the zope.interface trunk by early next week.
+ many/lots!
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de
internally. In the CMF we still have to deal with that on occasion.
Failure to do so would make it easy to get things wrong.
Indeed.
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thing" which in my view
should be the webserver trying to serve up UTF-8.
I guess, that years ago we had to worry much more about encodings
(latin-1, windows-1252, mac-roman, IBM code pages, and whatever unix was
doing).
I've been reading about http 2.0 coming up - is this go
eaders.
"""
http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/2012/03/26/whats-new-in-opera-development-snapshots-march-26-2012
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Am 22.03.2012, 15:27 Uhr, schrieb Jan-Carel Brand :
Any ideas why this vocabulary doesn't provide it in Python 3?
I think you have to use the @implements class decorator for Python 3.
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ld be preferably one
obvious way to do something" should apply when within Zope trying to
decide the charset of a file and that should be well documented. I'd
suggest keeping the stripping but implementing a more rigorous approach
such as you suggest.
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hink it's okay to go ahead and merge.
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Currently the hurdle to getting involved is signing and sending the
committer agreement. A hurdle which I think is worth keeping. On hosting:
personally, it does matter to me a great deal where the little code I
write is hosted.
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done, so I removed it.
Well, we could always think about removing it from SimpleVocabulary: it's
not in the interface so no subclass actually has the right to depend on
it. ;-)
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ould be reason enough to make the code as
clean as possible and that does mean DRY.
In the end it tends to make things easier to use. The exceptions where
refactoring to
produce slightly uglier code but with significant performance hopefully
prove the rule.
Well, your suggestions concerning the
over integration. In the end
it tends to make things easier to use. The exceptions where refactoring to
produce slightly uglier code but with significant performance hopefully
prove the rule.
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library and zope.form is
already incomplete, on the other we try and avoid application-specific
requirements in the libraries. All the more important to expand the
documentation so that other libraries can benefit from the plumbing.
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to the repository.
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zope.schema. Do widgets only exist for z3c.form?
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e as an 8th element, but it seems six of one a half dozen of
another, and the z.config code is much easier to understand when the
action is just a dictionary instead of a pseudo-struct.
I'm trying to think of where I've seen that pattern of {'organised'....
'others'
Enough of the linguistic shilly-shallying. I do think that we need
something like PIPs or PLIPs for Zope 4 (jokingly referred to as ZIPs in
one of my recent posts) to work through some of the suggestions that have
been made.
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removing Plone's dependencies on CMF. That
is not relevant to the discussion about Zope 4 / ZMI reimagined.
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t;tagging" the Request object with structured
> information (an interface) to indicate specialisation.
> I hate that I have to spell the layer in each ZCML statement.
Smells like a "ZIP" to me. ;-)
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to browser layers,
well, at least once CMF 2.3 has been released. But I think that CMF Skins
still offer some functionality that you don't get with browser layers out
of the box.
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ng by the current tests we're not yet up to Python 2.7 so
it could be an incompatibility with that.
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4.2 here. Maybe your Python
was built with 4.0 or has some unrecognisable architecture flags?
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it" questions, and
Bablyak's definitely fall into this category, are not in the spirit of the
list.
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have
access to files in /usr/local/zope/PPD/architecture/domains/
BTW. as you say you are new to Zope, what documentation have you been
given.
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ity. And, given that the work has come from an external
if related project, the main aim of exposing these libraries to the wider
world has been achieved.
So from +1 for Tres proposal and +1 for a roadmap on this.
Regarding Withers suggestion - should we be looking to move these
libraries to
e clearly. Are you still using zope.form or
are you using z3c.form?
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to which it is bound. Not
sure if your constraint is actually the best way to go.
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as such rather than pretending with 2.x that only minor changes
are being made.
As I've been able to do little or no development this year thanks to
Leonardo for raising this and Hanno for his explanation. I do think a
public roadmap, with opportunities for people wanting to get involved
reasons for the event system you were asking
about the other week.
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s the magic for you. I guess
queryProvider(object, interface) would be a better spelling for that use
case, which may be more general than I'm suggesting.
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another: why would you want to adapt an object with itself?
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to the disk yet?
No, that is not likely to be the case.
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actional
processing. The quickest thing to do is to reenable notification and add a
debug so that you can follow all the subscription calls and see what you
need to call.
Why do want to disable notification?
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point me to some documentation
> relating to this would be very helpful to me.
From memory I can recall something similar related to making changes to
copies of instance attributes but failing to apply them to attributes and
needing to specifically go context.attribute = form_result for the
sions of Zope and the onus must be with the Product author or
maintainer.
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> Thank you.
> This would answer my question if someone told me to take over
> maintenance of CatalogAware / CatalogPathAware in Products.ZCatalog
> and I'd have to rewrite it instead of just writing tests and if I then
> asked the question "where do I start
s usually a request on the mailing
list because another developer could just as easily put the removed
feature back.
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ge_*
methods and try and register subscribers on the fly but this would be
against the spirit of the ZCA. In reality decorator-based registration as
practised in Pyramid and Grok is a good compromise.
@Sascha I'm not sure if this will answer your question but you might want
to look
le on top!
Convenient, yes, but just try and explain why a specification against
which "living" code should be built should itself be executable.
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almost never overridden" / dependency injection
> case as compact for adapters as for utilities.
This is an excellent suggestion! Being able to supply a default
implementation that is easily overridden by a configuration is clean and
easily understood and avoids both clumsy code che
free to forward to friends who you think might be interested in
>> either/both events.
Sounds like an excellent idea.
Such a pity that there is not a dedicated mailing list for PyCon attendees.
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Am 10.02.2011, 07:07 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune :
> Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions?
I'll be there and hoping to finalise my work on CMF so that we can release
2.3
Is anyone bringing copies of the DZUG Brochure on Zope?
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says this means you can throw anything at them, in which case UTF-8 is a
good choice.
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Am 25.02.2011, 12:26 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting :
> +1 - if you really feel like it you could backport to 2.12 branch as
> well (as it only supports Python 2.6 too).
- 1 against backporting unless you are experiencing the errors on a 2.12
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n yuppie's initial suggestion for a 2.12 compatibility marking.
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for the ZTK > 1
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Am 06.12.2010, 22:35 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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> I don't have an account and I've never made a release.
I've just tested the svn checkout of zope.publisher with a Zope 2.12 +
CMF-based site I have and the change does what it should: where Zope was
previously guessing
Am 09.12.2010, 14:42 Uhr, schrieb Marius Gedminas :
> When can we have the new pretty summarizer?
Presumably not before Theuni gets back from holiday.
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Am 05.12.2010, 20:58 Uhr, schrieb Marius Gedminas :
> I can make you an owner on PyPI, if you tell me your username.
I don't have an account and I've never made a release.
> Also, please mention the change you made in CHANGES.txt.
Done, thanks for the reminder.
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Hi,
as Theuni is on holiday for two weeks I'll be convening the weekly Zope
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still open if you've got anything in particular you want to talk about.
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Am 29.10.2010, 11:41 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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> Could someone please release an update for zope.publisher for this? I'd
> like this change to be in Zope 2.13 if possible.
Bump - could someone please release an updated version of zope.publisher
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ration level would be an easy
> solution if you are trying to simply get a component to kick in.
As Marius has already noted, this sounds very much like adding more
complexity to solve the apparent existing complexity: swallowing the
spider to catch the fly.
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current implementation, so I
sympathise entirely with your complaint. As a developer you kind of
imagine that your application layer ought to "win" just as your subclass
"wins". Can we get some kind of diamond rule?
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I'm missing something, this isn't available from
launchpad so all we have are naming conventions.
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> - input from people who attended the grok sprint
> - An update on the repository policy? There's a nagging script supposed
>to appear ...
> - summit goals
We also need to to pick the next bug day and follow up on the last one.
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micro-optimisation. At Jeff Rush's talk at PyCon this year he
covered the penalties incurred by "." lookups so that might be something
that could be investigated but might it also be possible to "memoize" the
method calls? I keep forgetting when you can't do that.
Charli
are likely to have a more significant
effect. Might be worth timing a slots-based implementation.
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me.
> I won't be there next week unfortunately, as I'll be travelling for a
> customer. (I *might* be there but with only a very slight chance.)
> Charlie? Can you take over?
I should be able to, yes.
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Am 26.10.2010, 16:29 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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> I've just submitted a change to that old chestnut
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143873
Could someone please release an update for zope.publisher for this? I'd
like this change to be in Zope 2.13 if possible.
Cha
s the
browser is happy to take anything and UTF-8 is the only charset that we
can all use.
I'm now going to skulk over to the CMF and see if I can fix the breakage
introduced by Laurence's recent merge of his branch.
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application.
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my code much more readable.
As we are supposed to be able to use development mode anyway this makes
sense so +1 from me.
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a couple of CMF issues that I can look at
including the current break to CMF + Zope 2.12 Otherwise I'll try and look
at extending the bugtracking script as agreed with Theuni several months
back.
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e
data that reaches ZPublisher without any other specified encoding.
iso-8859-15
As to why it is iso-8859-anything as opposed to utf-8 is presumably
because it has historically been the case. I don't know what would break
if this would change.
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ually why is the XML entity being converted to
character data at all?
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Am 13.10.2010, 12:06 Uhr, schrieb Chris Withers :
> So why on earth is iso8859_15 being picked instead of utf-8?
I would guess this is the default-publisher-encoding of your system.
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Am 07.10.2010, 14:50 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
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> Thanks for the tip. For a vocabulary it has to provide IBaseVocabulary as
> well, although I guess I can just define a source. Unfortunately I'm
> getting now getting an AssertionError when the widgets are setup but I
> no
Am 12.10.2010, 17:12 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting :
> Are you sure you used the latest distribute release? I hadn't had any
> problem at all during that whole time.
I had it here with the CMF buildout and also got it in a report from a
customer.
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racter maps to
>>> u'\u203a'.encode("latin-1")
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 1, in
UnicodeEncodeError: 'latin-1' codec can't encode character u'\u203a' in
position 0: ordinal not in range(256)
ISO-8859-15 is, of course, Lati
vasive. (When not set it would just use
> login_path as normal).
I don't know whether this is relevant but Yuppie's refactoring of
CookieCrumbler (proposal 20th April 2010) for the CMF uses Exception views
and they work very well.
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feels quite a lot
faster to me than pre-buildout versions. I thought there were some
comparative figures upon release?
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Am 07.10.2010, 14:58 Uhr, schrieb Fred Drake :
> Interestingly, I can't find anything that suggests "consolidation" by
> searching that page for "mail" or "list". Was that what
> "IRC/mailinglist rationalisation" means?
Yes, that's
ry it has to provide IBaseVocabulary as
well, although I guess I can just define a source. Unfortunately I'm
getting now getting an AssertionError when the widgets are setup but I now
know where to look.
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Am 07.10.2010, 14:38 Uhr, schrieb Fred Drake :
> Another consolidation? We already tossed the zope3-dev list.
This was the suggestion at the summit:
http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/ZopeSummit2010Summary
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lists? It is a developer's
rather than a user's question but I would agree not related to ZTK
development.
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title of a SimpleTerm? At least in zope.formlib this leads to a rendering
error because: "AttributeError: 'MessageFactory' object has no attribute
'replace'"
Thanks for any pointers.
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Am 05.10.2010, 13:51 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark
:
> Shit. I have a doctor's appointment at 13:00 UTC. I hope I am back in
> time
> but if not can I ask Adam to step in?
Okay, I made it back in one piece. In addition to any post-summit
follow-up - and there have been very fe
an I ask Adam to step in?
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Hi,
I'll admit to spending most of my time on new CMF stuff but I did close
two bugs that I felt comfortable with. Didn't seem anyone else was hanging
around on IRC with bugfixing on their mind.
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