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--On 27. September 2006 13:47:26 -0400 Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
... i don't suppose anyone has an 'automagical' utility that instantly
transforms zclasses to python classes, and then changes all dtml/external
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:39:14PM +0200, Max M wrote:
| So the problem only exists for me in Archetype based products. Anytime I
| do a change in any AT content type I need to restart the site.
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| Can anybody confirm this behavior?
That's a known-(at least
Max M wrote:
I am not sure what is causing the problems. I am mostly a developer of
end user tools. Not a core Zope/Plone developer. And I am not really
interested in becoming one either. There must be a niche for developers
like me that focus on end users.
Well ok. I have researched a bit
nly one doing so?
What do I have to do to get the sweet sweet refresh working again?
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peace, instead of fixing already working stuff.
But then again, my interrest is in user functionality. Not in core
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Max M wrote:
Except that it hits a sore spot for open source right on the head.
Products are developed for our customers, and they will keep working for
those customers until they choose to upgrade.
But until then you don't upgrade and the changes
d release, just that there
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container = obj.aq_parent
container.manage_delObject('temp')
If you are deleting a list of objects in different folders you need to
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Only trouble is that it will be a problem in Zope 3 too.
Now that Twisted is put in front of Plone, we can also expect it to be a
problem when Zope is used as a server for other services.
Eg. mirroring an imap folder structure from exchange. Which I am
allready having s
nd('@') != -1" would suck.
I cannot at the top of my head think of a case where @name is used...
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Benji York wrote:
If we want people outside of the zope community to use these components,
they should not have the word "zope" anywhere in their name. If it says
"zope" people will *always* assume it
munities.
We should rather make a cool stack that will include people in Zope.
Please remember It is *still* the sexiest technology out there!
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Geoff Davis wrote:
No, I think I understood you. I was being sloppy in my use of language.
I should have said something more like "Zope 3 then becomes an application
server built around the Zed library".
Or "Zed is the part of Zope that can be used without Zope".
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Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
Max M said the following on 2006-02-27 17:26:
Jim Fulton wrote:
2) In an alternate vision, Zope 2 evolves to Zope 5.
Zope 2 is complicated! It has too many layers of everything.
read the full sentence that Jim wrote:
> 2) In an alternate vision, Zop
it's more difficulte than dropping a
package into a directory it would be bad.
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Does the server or the client hang?
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Yair Benita wrote:
# I would really really like this to work
T[1].add(6)
T._p_changed = True
get_transaction().commit()
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to something else.
have you tried changing the order?
w = Acquisition.ImplicitAcquisitionWrapper(o, self)
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about wrapping them with something like?
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wise never have found it.
Hmm... that is odd.
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work.
That's right. Under Plone 2.0 and Zope 2.7 I had the same kind of
problem. But when I restarted the browser it would be solved.
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As I said, I would write a How-To in getting Zope 3 up and running on
Windows, given the binaries that Tim has made.
http://www.mxm.dk/papers/run-z3-cvs-wthout-compiler/
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Now it's back up.
And it works fine. Text files are in Unix format. As expected.
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lot of stuff that could be different in Plone, but on a basic
level they got the right solution for making it possible to do
distributed development of products that can still work together.
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try out this Zope 3 thing, and get a feel for how it develops.
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I actually like writing technical documentation. Go figure.
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[Max M]
Or perhaps an automated nightly Windows build.
[Stephan Richter]
We have talked about it many times before, but simply lack the
bandwidth. Maybe you could provide this for Cygwin?
[Max M]
Argh ... that wasn't fair.
Ok I will try and find some time to look into
that part of the product
development that takes the most time.
After the setup I can then enjoy that I don't have to fight the
constraints of a framework.
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Stephan Richter wrote:
On Wednesday 21 April 2004 10:40, Max M wrote:
Or perhaps an automated nightly Windows build.
We have talked about it many times before, but simply lack the bandwidth.
Maybe you could provide this for Cygwin?
Argh ... that wasn't fair.
Ok I will try and find some ti
eem inapropriate.
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uilds seems more important than the releases.
However,
we are getting the first alpha out by the end of the month. Hopefully, by end
of May we will have finished the X3.0 to-do list and will release the beta.
At this point the API will freeze and application developers are encouraged
to hav
Stepped up to do what? How do you step up? To me it seems like you will
get the ability to have endless comitee meetings about how it should
work. Not the power to just change stuff. Even if it breaks sometimes.
I have enough of that kind of work from my customers thank
iking. But
it's a complex beast for flexible solutions. (That is why it is good for
us consultants ;-) )
Maybe I'm simply sick of moving along within web
browsers and the file system without a sensible IDE
and documentation.
That might be it ;-)
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> I propose to move from CVS to subversion for the Zope and ZODB projects;
>
> http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/MovingSCMToSubversion
Not adding to the repository my voice should not carry much weight, but
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I understand what you explain but what about if I install a new product?
Rewrite the factory?
I think is not a good solution don't you think?
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# get the newly added content
obj = getattr(parent, id)
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pretty shure that they are in order. But I could be wrong, so
the first approach is probably the safest.
Btw. These questions should really be asked on the Zope list, not
zope-dev. zope-dev is for subjects regarding the development of zope,
while the zope list is for develop
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output the
> form values in order after the form has been submitted.
Dictionary keys are unordered.
You need to store the order of the keys somewhere else. Ie. to have a
list in your form with the keys in order, Or to name them alphabetically
e this, is bussiness as usual.
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pertyManager,
SimpleItem.SimpleItem, ObjectManager):
This order works:
class aSimpleItem(
CatalogAware, PropertyManager, SimpleItem):
class anObjectManager(
ObjectManager, aSimpleItem):
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def re_cache(self)
self.layout_cache = self.board_template(self, self.REQUEST)
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board_view = self.generate_board_view()
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"Code"
if not teachers:
teachers = []
Which is a better way to do it anyway. But that still leaves the bug in
the form handling of Zope.
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that my action method:
def addTeacher(self, teachers):
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>> ['some/path', '']
Where I would expect:
>> ['some/path']
Isn't that a new behaviour? And isn't it a bug?
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> work for you, unfortunately.
Ay, that sucks. Customers have been using it for 2-3 years now. And they
have many many documents. I could write a converter, for converting it
into the new image tag, but that would suck too.
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But the problem could easily be elsewhere.
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Most likely you are filling the memory of your server so that you are
swapping to disk.
Try cutting the query into smaller pieces so that the memory doesn't get
filled up.
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In this sense Zope is again VERY secure.
No it isn't.
A statement like that without an argument is worthless in a discussion.
You need to elaborate as we cannot read your mind and see what lies
behind the statement.
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Which is the right way to do it.
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on earth are you suposed to add an
object to an objectmanager, if you don't use _setObject() ??
Every time you make an object that subclasses ObjectManager, wich is
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elf into a corner. An evolutionary dead-end so to
speak.
If Zope gets forced to go in one different direction, like CMF, it will
quickly hit an evolutionary dead end.
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>
> Any ideas what that can be?
If you have started Zope without a terminal for it to output it's errors
and alerts to, it can do that.
On Linux you should start it with a "nohup ./start -D" ... etc.
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27;2 * 2 * 3 = 12'
Or perhaps backticks?
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ost of the stx documents I see my users paste in in real life
is a few KB worth of text. Max... And the advantage is that REST has a
syntax that is much closer to what ordinary users expect.
In userland indentation is actually a hard problem.
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"Skeptic Effect" o
be:
???
Then we could use both interchangably.
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Product
which is able to do everything you want to from the get-go.
Hav en god dag!
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could use the mxmRelations product.
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> The plan is to release 2.6 as soon as we can. We're really busy with a
> bunch of
> customer work and haven't had as much time to work on this as we'd like.
Well actually this is more comforting than if you had a lot of time on
your hands ;-)
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orally at zope.com,
or is attached as comments in the cvs, or where do you guys keep each
other up to date about changes taking place?
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metaType['name'] in allowedMetaTypes:
result.append(metaType)
return result
You can probably modify it to your needs.
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, you must look in:
\lib\python\OFS\ObjectManager.py
and overwrite "all_meta_types()". This functions returns a list of
tuples, telling which objects to be added to the "add *" selectbox.
But it WILL bite you later.
For further info goo
e)
I am just pretty unshure about this approach though, so I am fishing for
anything like it. The closest thing I have found was in the "Transparent
Folder" product.
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as to how I could do this best ? My idea is
either to subclass ObjectManager and overwrite "__getitem__()", or to
find a way to push my objectlist onto the request object.
Any better ideas? Pointers to code that does something similar?
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>Architecturally, it is *excellent*, and I'm very excited about it. I
>could wax on for hours, but I won't right now.
>
I only wish somebody would ... It is hard to figure it out fully by
reading only the online documentat
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