Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-09-01 Thread Chris Withers
Marius Gedminas wrote: > So either let's make zope.app.testing not depend on the whole world, +1 > or > let's extract the core of zope.app.testing +10 > and put it somewhere else > (zope.testing?). -1 cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was >> consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. > > Oh, ther

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fred Drake wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was >> consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. > > Oh, ther

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:59:24PM +0200, Malthe Borch wrote: > Fred Drake wrote: > > There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; > > because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show > > whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what > >

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: > There's no good way to avoid dependencies like zope.app.testing; > because that's part of the test environment, the tests won't show > whether there are problems when it's removed. If you want to fly what > you test, test dependencies can't be eliminated. I understand, but thi

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't know there was a controversy, but I do remember that there was > consensus that ``extras_require`` is not the most elegant solution. Oh, there is! > If you can advise a different way to avoid pulling in > ``zope.a

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.dublincore/trunk/ Move test-dependencies to 'extras'.

2008-08-29 Thread Malthe Borch
Fred Drake wrote: > This is a controversial change; can we avoid making changes like this > until a policy is agreed upon? > > The controversy surrounding this has been discussed on zope-dev > several times; I don't want to rehash it *right now*, since we all > have things we need to get done. I