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>Ick! Why is this Nabble thing sending HTML mail :-(
Yesterday it did. Today it doesn't. We used to use multipart
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Martin Aspeli wrote:
>Ick! Why is this Nabble thing sending HTML mail :-(
Yesterday it did. Today it doesn't. We used to use multipart
but in the new release that we just uploaded, everyting is
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On Feb 8, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
[snip]
I think the split-up contest--response 2--that Joel Moxley
proposed on the list and others proposed privately to me sounds
good.
I'm not really thrilled about that idea. Marketing needs to be a
unified message
Alexander Limi wrote:
3.x was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting for the fabled Zope2
integration (the dropping of the X) that people were talking about.
The way it was done was also incredibly unprofessional and created a lot
of confusion:
Oh don't be so rediculous. No-one ever said
Gary Poster wrote:
[snip]
I think the split-up contest--response 2--that Joel Moxley proposed on
the list and others proposed privately to me sounds good.
I'm not really thrilled about that idea. Marketing needs to be a unified
message, and if you split it up you'll likely end up with a hod
Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to
zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and
I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice
too). I, and I think others, are
Hey,
No, the marketing talk should stay wherever it is. Only the people who
want to fix the marketing situation by working on building a better
zope.org should go to zope-web.
If you want to make sure that the new zope.org is going to work with
your marketing suggestions, you'd better help o
On 2/8/06, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right, marketing is more than website things,
>
> I know that a lot of people here don't like to have a lot of mailing
> lists but, can't we have a zope-com dedicated mailing list ?
+1 to centralize the discussions on an devoded mailing list. Mar
On 2/7/06, Jeff Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something that I admire about Ruby on Rails, Django, MochiKit, and
> TurboGears all is that they're opinionated, proud of it, clear in
> their message, and all seem to have a similar degree of respect for
> simplicity and communication.
Hi!
Just a
Hi Florian
[...]
> > [...]
> >
> > > No, this is usually painful tracking down. You could check
> > > for test setup code
> > > that assigns AttributeAnnotatable to File. Also note that
> > > there is no good
> > > way for tearing down classImplements() statements. So this
> > > issue potentially
Hi All,
I have being quite busy lately trying to improve WebDAV support for Zope3.
To this end I have two proposals worth your consideration. I don't yet have
access to the proposals area of zope.org but I have put them up in my home
folder on zope.org for the time being. They are:
WebDAV
In 3.2 version 'Adding'-view for container was
'zope.app.container.browser.adding.ContentAdding' class but in new trunk
version it's 'Adding' class. 'ContentAdding'-deprecated (such as
'add_content'-menu) and must be removed
On 2/8/06, kit BLAKE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lennart, you must be sending your 'courriels' with a French keyboard.
Yes. But I use a Swedish keyboard layout. :-)
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2006/2/8, Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > This slogan pops up in my mind: "Zope^3 - Think out of the box!"
>
> Very nice, but writing Zope^3 is too complicated, I hardly know where
> to find the ^ on my keyboard. ;-)
Lennart, you must be sending your 'courriels' with a French keyboard.
T
Paul Winkler wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:08:57AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
Decimal is a new type and we have not yet declared it to be a rock.
What is "a rock"?
A rock is an immutable object with no insecure methods. Trusted code
can pass a bare rock to untrusted code with no f
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:08:57AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
> Decimal is a new type and we have not yet declared it to be a rock.
What is "a rock"?
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+1 Max M! I have this problem in a big way.
http://zopewiki.org/VersionsMatrix is a manual equivalent.
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On 2/8/06, Gary Poster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the split-up contest--response 2--that Joel Moxley proposed
> on the list and others proposed privately to me sounds good. If
> others feel that it would stomp on their efforts, though, I'm not
> thrilled about angering people who have al
On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:19 AM, Stephan Richter wrote:
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 05:09, Jeff Shell wrote:
Alright, I've stayed up way too late on this.
Jeff,
you always make great points! I would like to nominate you as the
"Zope 3
Propaganda Minister"! :-) No seriously, you have a great wa
Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
Gary Poster wrote:
I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations
to zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek),
and I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be
nice too). I, and I think others, are
Am Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 23:48 schrieb Roger Ineichen:
> Hi Stephan
>
> [...]
>
> > No, this is usually painful tracking down. You could check
> > for test setup code
> > that assigns AttributeAnnotatable to File. Also note that
> > there is no good
> > way for tearing down classImplements() st
Gary Poster wrote:
I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to
zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and I'm
not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice
too). I, and I think others, are interested in marketing Zope 3
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 13:43, Garanin Michael wrote:
> My content object A has attributes 'cost' & 'tax' - Decimal (from
> decimal). I try: A.cost + A.tax ---> security error '+' method for
> Decimal-class. I solve problem by 'zope.proxy.removeAllProxies' , but i
> think it's bad. What other
My content object A has attributes 'cost' & 'tax' - Decimal (from
decimal). I try: A.cost + A.tax ---> security error '+' method for
Decimal-class. I solve problem by 'zope.proxy.removeAllProxies' , but i
think it's bad. Wha
Gary Poster wrote:
Yes, this has been a lot of email messages, but I'd rather hang out
together.
Please. Just the split/cross posting between -dev and -users is
annoying enough.
--
Benji York
Senior Software Engineer
Zope Corporation
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On Feb 8, 2006, at 7:53 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:
Now, who can organise this hype-contest that everybody seemed tothink
was a good idea?
It wasn't a mandate. I got three kinds of responses (publicly and
privately):
1 Yes, go for it.
2 If we split it up so that it's not a website contes
I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to
zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and
I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice
too). I, and I think others, are interested in marketing Zope 3.
As such, are we r
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
[snip buildbot]
Yup, it is a bit long to set up but if you have a spare computer
where you can set up all environnements where you want to test your
different product versions, it is very nice indeed.
And now that VMware Server is free (no charge, not open) you can run
those
Chris Withers wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Or am I the only one seing this as a problem that should be automated?
I think buildbot fills this need very well,
like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/
Nah, Max is after something different, and I agree with him that it
would
Chris Withers wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Or am I the only one seing this as a problem that should be automated?
I think buildbot fills this need very well,
like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/
Nah, Max is after something different, and I agree with him that it
woul
Max M wrote:
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
I think buildbot fills this need very well,
like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/
I was aware of http://buildbot.zope.org/ but I though it was an
internally developed tool.
Nope, it's a python product. python-dev even use it too now
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
I think buildbot fills this need very well,
like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/
I was aware of http://buildbot.zope.org/ but I though it was an
internally developed tool.
It certainly goes a long way in getting there. Though it might be a bit
mu
Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Or am I the only one seing this as a problem that should be automated?
I think buildbot fills this need very well,
like http://buildbot.zope.org/ or http://buildbot.nuxeo.org/
Nah, Max is after something different, and I agree with him that it
would be great if it could be
Max M wrote:
Being a long time Product developer for Zope 2, I constantly have a
big problem with checking compatibility for my products with different
Python-Zope-Plone-Product combinations.
It is also impossible to guess from the Products on zope.org and
Plone.org which versions works with
Being a long time Product developer for Zope 2, I constantly have a big
problem with checking compatibility for my products with different
Python-Zope-Plone-Product combinations.
It is also impossible to guess from the Products on zope.org and
Plone.org which versions works with what.
As fa
> This sloagan pops up in my mind: "Zope^3 - Think out of the box!"
Very nice, but writing Zope^3 is too complicated, I hardly know where
to find the ^ on my keyboard. ;-)
I suggest that we start trying to writing it Zope3, without any
spaces, and that any logo will use a raised 3. If people pron
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 00:59 -0500, Fred Drake wrote:
> So why not say "it's about XP" and make it "Zope XP 3.x.y"?
>
It sounds too much 'Windows XP' like for my taste.
Alen
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On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 03:37:45PM -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Alexander Limi wrote:
> >The original discussion never suggested code names for releases, but a
> >brand name to help Zope 3 separate itself from Zope 2 - since it is a
> >*completely* different beast.
>
> Random thought... hehe
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 03:16:22 -0800, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
"Zope X3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from
scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences
of Zope 2. The "X" in the name stands for "experimental", since this
re
Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:32:52 -0800, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Like it or not, Zope (2) seems to have a lot of stigma out there; Zope
3 has been around a while. In actual fact, for a while I thought Zope
3.x was still just unfinished vapourware, waiting fo
Shane Hathaway wrote:
Alexander Limi wrote:
+1. Zope^3 is visually interesting enough, and geeky enough.
While procrastinating Real Work, I played with a logo based on this
idea. It's very rough--a more refined version would probably eliminate
the 3D effects. But it's something to talk abo
Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:11:31 -0800, kit BLAKE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(Are you going French style with your last name in all caps, Kit? :)
2006/2/8, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Zope^3 :)
That's brilliant. It works in ASCII, or in normal text in a paragraph
Joel Moxley wrote:
[snip]
These are good points. I'm not convinced myself yet we should leave
zope.org as is and do the marketing for Zope 2 - I think Zope.org is
currently mostly anti-marketing for whatever Zope we're talking about.
That said, getting community interest in making something n
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