[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

2006-09-29 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7927 Blamelist: andreasjung,ctheune BUILD FAILED: failed svn sincerely, -The Buildbot _

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin

2006-09-29 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7927 Blamelist: andreasjung,ctheune BUILD FAILED: failed failed slave lost sincerely, -The Buildbot

[Zope3-dev] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jeff Shell wrote: Compare: - http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/RoadMap - http://www.sqlalchemy.org/trac/milestone/0.3.0?by=severity Or dev.plone.org. Trac is pretty nice, especially as an svn browser and for the roadmap view. The issue tracker is quite good (could be better, but works fairly well)

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.3 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin

2006-09-29 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 branches 3.3 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7925 Blamelist: andreasjung,ctheune BUILD FAILED: failed failed slave lost sincerely, -The Buildbot

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, as I stumbled over this recently, I'd like to bring this up for discussion: There is an interface called IWriteFile in the module zope.filerepresentation.interfaces. It defines one method "write(data)" with the doc string: "Update the file data" There are some pro

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Christian Theune
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Christian Theune wrote: >> Hi, >> >> as I stumbled over this recently, I'd like to bring this up for >> discussion: >> >> There is an interface called IWriteFile in the module >> zope.filerepresentation.interfaces. >> >> It defines one method "write(data)" with th

[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze

2006-09-29 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7933 Blamelist: icemac BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope3-dev maili

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2006-9-28 11:22 +0200: ... The last time this was discussed with Jim, the idea was to try to use Zope 3's security proxy approach in Zope 2 for Python Script security - Jim and I had some ideas I need to dredge up from the back of my mind.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jeff Shell wrote: On 9/28/06, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christian Theune wrote: > Morning, > > Baiju M wrote: >> Hi, >> What is the target Python version for Zope 3.4, is it Python 2.5? > > Right now it's still Python 2.4, as Zope 3.4 is scheduled for next year, >

Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jeff Shell wrote: On 9/28/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Baiju M wrote: Hi, What is the target Python version for Zope 3.4, is it Python 2.5? That's a good question. I fear it will take a fair bit of work to get to it and, frankly for me there are higher pr

Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Baiju M
On 9/29/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's going to be a significant investment of work to make sure everything works with Python 2.5. Either someone credible steps up, convinces us, and does the work, and we all move over to Python 2.5. If they don't, we do it the next cycle.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Baiju M
On 9/29/06, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/29/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's going to be a significant investment of work to make sure > everything works with Python 2.5. Either someone credible steps up, > convinces us, and does the work, and we all move over to

Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On 9/29/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's going to be a significant investment of work to make sure everything works with Python 2.5. Either someone credible steps up, convinces us, and does the work, and we all move over to Python 2.5. If they don't, we do it t

Re: [Zope3-dev] test for security in unit tests?

2006-09-29 Thread Benji York
Roy Mathew wrote: I find that testing for security is hard, since the default user in the doctests seems to have "unrestricted" access to all methods and attributes. Is there a "unit-test friendly" way of faking a user with a more restricted role, so that I can reproduce security errors in unit t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Benji York
Martijn Faassen wrote: Again, I'll repeat that I think we should *not* trying to support two Python versions at the same time. Whether something works on a later version of Python is beside the point; it's about whether we officially make sure. I do not believe we currently (if ever) want to sp

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Jim Fulton
Thanks for the input. I wonder if anyone wants to volunteer to spearhead a track prototype for zope.org? One of the things I like about Launchpad is that I don't have to do any work. If someone is willing to step forward and commit to a Trac implementation, I'm happy to try it out. I'd like t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On 9/29/06, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/29/06, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's going to be a significant investment of work to make sure > everything works with Python 2.5. Either someone credible steps up, > convinces us, and does the work, and we a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen
Benji York wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Again, I'll repeat that I think we should *not* trying to support two Python versions at the same time. Whether something works on a later version of Python is beside the point; it's about whether we officially make sure. I do not believe we currently (

[Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Jim Fulton
Tres Seaver wrote: ... The change from 2.4 to 2.5 is *massively* disruptive for a framework like Zope: much more so than any change since 2.2, I think (maybe even 2.0/2.1). The hardest bit is the change to the way the compiler works: RestrictedPython is completely incompatible with the new AST

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
>> On a small aesthetics side, I find Launchpad's side bars incredibly >> distracting, and I don't like looking at the page because it feels >> like there are too many things vying for my attention and I have a >> hard time really reading the text in front of me. The content gets >> squished. And

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Python version for Zope 3.4 ?

2006-09-29 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: ... The change from 2.4 to 2.5 is *massively* disruptive for a framework like Zope: much more so than any change since 2.2, I think (maybe even 2.0/2.1). The hardest bit is the change to the way the compiler works: Rest

Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Before we move any issue collectors to launchpad, we need a bit more > experience with the launchpad issue tracker and its capabilities. The first couple of links on https://help.launchpad.net/ are to "Highlights of feature planning" and "Highlights of bug tracking" docu

Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs

2006-09-29 Thread Steve Alexander
> Finally, I'm experimenting with using launchpad for bugs: > > https://launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/+bugs > > and feature requests: > > https://features.launchpad.net/products/zc.buildout/ > > So far this is working OK. I haven't really stressed it. Launchpad makes > this very easy

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Ignas Mikalajunas
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > Christian Theune wrote: >> Hi, >> >> as I stumbled over this recently, I'd like to bring this up for >> discussion: >> >> There is an interface called IWriteFile in the module >> zope.filerepresentation.interfaces. >> >> It defines one method "write(data)" with t

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Benji York
Christian Theune wrote: We probably have to. But to be honest? I totally understand every programmer that will ask us "WTF?!?". Does anybody see a better way out of that situation without deprecating anything again? I don't. As far as I can tell, this is a deceptive API and looks like a perfe

[Zope3-dev] test for security in unit tests?

2006-09-29 Thread Ignas Mikalajunas
Roy Mathew wrote: > I find that testing for security is hard, since the default user in > the doctests seems to have "unrestricted" access to all methods and > attributes. Is there a "unit-test friendly" way of faking a user > with a more restricted role, so that I can reproduce security errors >

Re: Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Shell
On 9/29/06, Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On a small aesthetics side, I find Launchpad's side bars incredibly >> distracting, and I don't like looking at the page because it feels >> like there are too many things vying for my attention and I have a >> hard time really reading th

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Luis De la Parra
>> There is an interface called IWriteFile in the module >> zope.filerepresentation.interfaces. >> >> It defines one method "write(data)" with the doc string: >> >> "Update the file data" >> >> There are some problems I have with this: >> >> a) The interface is yet another interface for doing

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Luis De la Parra wrote: then we have z3c.filetype and zope.mimetype. For what I've seen, z3c.filetype is in a better shape, but both of them seem to be similar. I'm not familiar with z3c.filetype. Could you (or someone else) elaborate on the similarities, and

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.filerepresentation.interfaces.IWriteFile

2006-09-29 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Benji York wrote: Christian Theune wrote: We probably have to. But to be honest? I totally understand every programmer that will ask us "WTF?!?". Does anybody see a better way out of that situation without deprecating anything again? I don't. As far as I can tell, this is a deceptive API and