[Zope3-dev] i18n message factory in zope domain

2007-10-03 Thread Baiju M
Hi, Should we create separate message factory in 'zope' domain for each packages ? If so, can anyone explain why it should be like that. Few weeks back a new message factory is created in zope.i18nmessageid [1] . And now some packages use this directly. I am bit confused now ... [1] http://

[Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton
I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. Philipp, would you mind separating the release process into a separate file? Or do you mind if I do it? Some comments on the current draft at: http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/ maintain

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. +1 There are other improvements that might be made, but let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. This isn't perfect, so I get to suggest it. I propose that we codify the practice of r

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Benji York wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. +1 There are other improvements that might be made, but let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. This isn't perfect, so I get to sugg

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Benji York
Jim Fulton wrote: For example, a packaging of MochiKit 1.3.1 might have a version # like 1.3.1-1, or, if it is exciting enough: 1.3.1-1.1 I assume setuptools interprets version numbers like this in a reasonable way. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation __

[Zope3-dev] Re: i18n message factory in zope domain

2007-10-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Baiju M wrote: Should we create separate message factory in 'zope' domain for each packages ? If so, can anyone explain why it should be like that. No. I think each package that has translations should actually use its *own* domain and ship with the translations. In an eggified world it doesn

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Benji York wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: For example, a packaging of MochiKit 1.3.1 might have a version # like 1.3.1-1, or, if it is exciting enough: 1.3.1-1.1 I assume setuptools interprets version numbers like this in a reasonable way. AFAIK. :) Jim -- Jim

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:14, Jim Fulton wrote: One hole I see is giving people guidance on what needs to be tested (and how) before a release is made. My preference would be to rely heavily on judgement with a few checks so as not to make things too heavy. This

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/3/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want tools! Actually, I just want one tool. 70% of the release process is > repetition and that needs to be factored into a tool. This tool should have > been written before the Zope trunk was blown into pieces, but it wasn't. :-( I'd reco

[Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: > On 10/3/07, Stephan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I want tools! Actually, I just want one tool. 70% of the release process is >> repetition and that needs to be factored into a tool. This tool should have >> been writte

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Benji York
Tres Seaver wrote: I would prefer that we quit releasing non-source distributions at all; the exceptions would be Windows eggs for packages containing extensions. +1 -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zo

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:14, Jim Fulton wrote: One hole I see is giving people guidance on what needs to be tested (and how) before a release is made. My preference would be to rely heavily on judgement with a few checks so as not to mak

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/3/07, Fred Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/3/07, Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It currently only makes releases as tgz, but adding eggs should be so > > hard (it's done by calling setup.py anyway if I remember correctly). > > tgz files are all that's needed (or wante

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.dottedname doesn't have a CHANGES.txt (again?)

2007-10-03 Thread Fred Drake
On 10/3/07, Lennart Regebro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It currently only makes releases as tgz, but adding eggs should be so > hard (it's done by calling setup.py anyway if I remember correctly). tgz files are all that's needed (or wanted); there's no reason to use a .egg file. For packages tha

[Zope3-dev] Re: Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. Philipp, would you mind separating the release process into a separate file? Or do you mind if I do it? Done: http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/foundation/releasing-software.txt WRT

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Jim Fulton
On Oct 3, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. Philipp, would you mind separating the release process into a separate file? Or do you mind if I do it? Done: http://svn.zope.org/*che

Re: [Zope3-dev] Release process closure

2007-10-03 Thread Baiju M
Jim Fulton wrote: I'd really like to get to closure on the current approved release process. Philipp, would you mind separating the release process into a separate file? Or do you mind if I do it? Some comments on the current draft at: http://svn.zope.org/*checkout*/Sandbox/philikon/fou