Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-04 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Jim Fulton wrote: I think a lack of a realistic vision means that we are pulling in different directions. I think this is causing a lot of harm. I think the crux of the issue here is that presently, we do not have a consistent answer to the question "What is `Zope'?". I think what Jim is atte

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: merge zope-dev and zope3-dev?

2006-02-19 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Gary Poster wrote: On Feb 17, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: We'd have to declare the zope3-dev list for obsolete and make people not send messages to it. We'd just have to define a date and time. All subsequent mail traffic would be handled by zope-d

Re: [Zope3-dev] Pluggins vs Application Definition

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Jim Fulton wrote: In summary, I think we need *both* approaches, as they serve different needs. I'd have to agree... so +1 .. but I'd suggest that the application/plugin should have a way of defining which ways it can (or prefers, if it can't be enforced) to be included, so it is clear that P

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 web root

2006-02-11 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Shane Hathaway wrote: Zope is a feast with many kinds of food. When people come to the feast, most are not willing to try everything at once, particularly the entrees from the land of OODBMS. First let them have some familiar foods. When they find out how finely prepared the food is, they

Re: [Zope3-dev] Selecting a code name

2006-02-07 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Paul Winkler wrote: "Mac OSX" in itself, on the other hand, was brilliant. With one letter they managed to establish: [...] Right... but that is a brand, not a codename. As I understand it, people are discussing things like "Tiger", and "Panther", to follow your example. rob

[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Selecting a code name

2006-02-07 Thread Rob Jeschofnik
Stephan Richter wrote: Okay, I am giving in on this. There is a three step process that will have to be fullfilled to assign a codename to the Zope 3.3 release. Surely codenames are only really useful or meaningful for software that is going to be branded, but the marketing/branding teams