It would seem to me so much simpler to provide a simple storage unit package
where people could enter all of their user names and passwords, so even if
they forgot one, they could just call up this package and refresh their
memories.  This would be stored locally, and either biometrically
authorized, or strongly encrypted.  It could even be exported and stored
off-site for security, and work-around style implementations are already
used by those in the know (PGP'd Doc stored on floppy in fire-proof box, for
example...), so why don't Netscape and IE offer something like that instead
of their "I can save every password you want me to somewhere else that you
can't see in a probably unsafely secured location on your computer so that
every time your spouse visits this site using your profile they can see what
you've just ordered them for christmas" box that pops up everywhere you
go........



Jeff Neithercutt  CNA, GSEC
Wells Fargo Bank
Corporate Information Protection
155 5th Street  MAC 0186-030
San Francisco, CA.  94103
(415)243-5549


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Woody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Single Sign On Software and One Time Password


I was just reading something that someone forwarded me from Tech Republic I
think (doesn't really matter as the author's e-mail address is included, so
you can write there directly).  This might interest you as you are looking
into this technology right now.

>> WHY SINGLE SIGN-ON IS STILL A BAD IDEA
>> Why are so many companies interested 
>> in single sign-on services and centralizing 
>> customer information when it's fairly 
>> obvious that (given a choice) consumers 
>> wouldn't choose to store this personal 
>> information online?
>> 
>> Obviously, this is a rhetorical question. I 
>> understand that it's all about marketing. 
>> With detailed customer information 
>> available real-time in a large, distributed 
>> database, targeting marketing based on 
>> that information is bound to occur. And 
>> since such a data store is intended to be 
>> accessible across the Internet, abuse of 
>> this data, either intentional or by accident, 
>> is also likely.
>> 
>> To me, the entire issue of single sign-on 
>> introduces the type of monitoring and 
>> access control issues that border on 
>> invasion of privacy. Not to mention that 
>> wily hackers, eager for the crown of 
>> "Ultimate Hack," will do whatever they can 
>> to find vulnerabilities and exploits on any 
>> large-scale database, like the one Passport 
>> provides and the one that Liberty Alliance 
>> Project proposes.
>> 
>> Single sign-on services are a horrible 
>> simplification of authentication that is 
>> needed. I want to be authenticated when I 
>> try to view my bank account! I want to type 
>> in a different username and password when 
>> I need to! If one of my usernames and 
>> password gets compromised, at least it only 
>> gets compromised in one place. Most people I 
>> asked agreed that single sign-on is a bad 
>> idea, based on the explanation I just gave.
>> 
>> So for now, count me out of being a 
>> participant in the Liberty Alliance Project. For 
>> that matter, I'm perfectly content keeping my 
>> multiple username and passwords for access 
>> to myself--which is where that information 
>> belongs in the first place.
>> 
>> To comment on this TechMail, write to Jonathan Yarden.
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Internet%20Security
>> 
>> Jonathan Yarden is the senior UNIX system 
>> administrator, network security manager, and 
>> senior software architect for a regional ISP. Jon 
>> is also a member of the FBI InfraGard program, 
>> a partnership between the FBI and the private 
>> sector.

JayW

>>> "Vicki Vinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/11/01 08:40AM >>>
Computer Associates has a Single Sign On app

>>> "eko yulianto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/08/01 10:29PM >>>
Hello,
I looking for software for Single Sign On and One Time Password solution for
my company, does anyone know which software that I need to used or the best
one ?
Because I will implemented that requirement in many platform ( Win9x, W2K,
AS/400, OS/390, ) and each platform have limited features for authentication
process.
Thank's for any help and comments.

Eko Yulianto
IT Security
Menara Asia 3rd Floor
Diponegoro 101, Lippo Karawaci
Tangerang, Indonesia
Phone: +62.21.5460666 ext.5335
Fax: +62.21.5460660
Post Office: 15810
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