> This strikes me as somewhat of a bonehead question,
> but it's something that's bothered me for awhile:
> 
> Let's say I have DSL at home. Let's also say that I
> have a single public IP address, but my internal LAN
> uses private addressing. The DSL router performs some
> sort of NAT or PAT (probably PAT here). All my
> internal machines can reach the Internet through the
> DSL router, but when they come out, the source address
> is changed to the public address. The ports are
> managed by the router, so that it knows who's talking
> to whom, and can thus properly direct returning
> traffic.
> 
> Since someone from the outside accessing the router
> itself would be a bad idea, say I'm blocking that.
> Let's say it's managed by http, and I have a filter
> rule that prohibits anything but my private network
> from reaching port 80.
> 
> Now, for all intents and purposes, how vulnerable is
> my internal network?
> 
> You can't start a connection with an internal system
> because you can't reach its IP address. Even if you
> did manage to hijack a session, of how much value
> would it really be?
> 
> So it seems to me that if you use NAT/PAT, you don't
> need a real firewall unless you're actually permitting
> some kind of traffic to connect to something from the
> outside.
> 
> Is that right?

Not at all, Dee.

Try to think at a vulnerability of your DSL router (e.g. a sigle UDP 
packet tha make your router OS crash letting you to access its 
configuration).

Your DSL router can be used as a "first hop" to reach your internal 
network. Once you have get an access to the DSL router as Admin, the 
game is over.

Giorgio

> 
> -- Dee
> 
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