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Chris, What do you mean when you say ; "There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them (including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment" I wasn't aware that it was "Illegal" to run AVG in a networked environment. What do you mean by this. Thanks for the post, Paul >Received: (qmail 23917 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 16:27:17 -0000 >Received: from outgoing2.securityfocus.com (205.206.231.26) > by mail.securityfocus.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 16:27:17 -0000 >Received: from lists.securityfocus.com (lists.securityfocus.com [205.206.231.19]) > by outgoing2.securityfocus.com (Postfix) with QMQP > id ECEC88F524; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:01:59 -0600 (MDT) >Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >List-Id: <security-basics.list-id.securityfocus.com> >List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: moderator for [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: (qmail 11224 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2003 19:43:35 -0000 >X-Originating-IP: [64.60.95.218] >X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Chris Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Oh Dear, Where to start?! >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:47:36 -0700 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2003 19:47:36.0561 (UTC) FILETIME= [A0ADD610:01C33B52] > >>From: Steve Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Hey everyone, >> >>Ok... I am in a bit of a jam here and I was hoping to >>get some feedback from some of you with appropriate >>experience in the field of network security and policy >>development. >> >>I am an senior at RIT studying (essentially) systems >>administration. My main focus and priority has been >>computer security and policy development. I recently >>took a internship with a small government office >>helping out with computer administration tasks. Upon >>arrival, I decided it would be fun to do a windows >>update to see what sort of things would come up for my >>PC. Low and behold, there were over 40 critical >>updates, driver updates, and recommended updates. >> >>Right off the bat this triggered the feeling that >>there was absolutely no security or update plans in >>place at this particular organization. I quickly >>addressed the issue, and have been working to draft a >>comprehensive security policy and implement technical >>controls. >> >>What I need advice on is the following: If you were >>introduced to a mixed network (literally all versions >>of windows since 3.1 and mac systems) that have no >>updates, backups, or patches installed... connected to >>a network with only a basic NAT table and no other >>security... with not even anti-virus software >>enabled... with no user policies or disaster plans in >>place... with unprotected netbios shares everywhere... >>where would you start the process of building some >>sort of security solution? >> >>I mean, I've seen passwords on monitors, shared >>accounts, open public ports (even the wiring cabinet >>was unlocked in plain view of passbys to the >>building). I've been tasked with creating the security >>policies relating to internet use, network and phone >>use, passwords, physical security, backup/disaster >>plans, antivirus, incident response, email >>use/protection, and whatever else needs done. This >>wouldnt be so bad normally I guess, but there is >>virtually no budget allocated to help for this project >>and I have approximately 3 months to do it. To make >>matters worse, I am also responsible for systems >>admin, network admin, tech support, programming, and >>whatever other tasks may need to be done in the >>meantime. >> >>So basically, if you had to start from nothing, where >>would you start first? What would you consider to be >>the most important things to be implemented? I am >>literally working from ground zero here... heh! > >(I don't know much about macs so I'm leaving them out) > >This was pretty much my exact situation when I started here. First you have >to acknowlege the fact that your three month time limit means this is an >emergency, and deal with things on that footing. Forget trying to write up >all the policies first, you're the only one dealing with this, so you need >to DO SOMETHING, you can write about it once things calm down a bit. Here >is the first things I would do, in order: > >1) Setup a firewall, since you have a low budget and are pressed for time, I >recommend IPCOP, you should be able to have it up an running on an older box >in less than 30 minutes even if you're not big on Linux knowledge. >2) Install anti-virus software. If you have any budget at all this is where >I'd spend it, get Norton corporate and install it everywhere then run a >virus sweep. There are a number of free scanners, but nearly all of them >(including AVG) are not legal to run in a networked environment. >3) Use Active Directory to deploy SP3 to all of your machines automatically, >then go around and configure the automatic updates feature to run nightly >and auto-install critical updates. (Later on you'll want to switch over to >using an SUS server, but for now this is good enough) >4) Configure the security policy for passwords with min length, complexity >requirements, history, etc. then force a password change on everyone on the >system. >5) Set up groups and assign users to them (don't worry about getting them >perfect, you'll have to tune this later) then start restricting access based >on membership. Especially check the membership of all admin groups, often >times they'll have like 22 domain admins or some other silly thing. >6) Download a copy of spybotsd, deploy it, update it, and scan all of your >machines. >7) Get some locks installed for physical security of the server room and >wiring closets. >8) Get a policy established that prohibits having your password on a sticky >note, in your desk etc., then do a sweep through the office looking for >them. (get management approval first) >9) Do a hardware and software inventory to see what you've got, and get >started on making sure you're license compliant. >10) Audit your servers and turn off unneccessary services. > >Ok, that's the worst stuff, once you've finished all that you can slow down >and start working on a more formal implementation and tightening things up >further. > >Chris Berry >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Systems Administrator >JM Associates > >"Within every man beats a heart of darkness." --The Shadow > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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