It shouldn't.  The TCP sequence number *should* be cryptographically
strong.  (As opposed to the IP ID number which is usually incremental).
It is "strong" in the sense that, even if I make 100 connections to a
host, and watch which sequence numbers it uses (and even of those are
100 consecutive connections), I SHOULD NOT be able to predict the next
sequence number it uses.  nmap -O -v is a good guage of this.  Early
Windows kernel are apparently really bad ... something like incremental
TCP Seq numbers ...

Justin

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:14:03PM +0000, Stuart wrote:
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> Thanks for clearing that up,
> I remember reading an article a while back about sending frequent
> spoofed ARP packets to receive packets but have been unable to locate
> the article. You can specify your own Mac address on some network
> cards in windows now, if this was set wouldn't this prevent proper
> communications between hosts?
> Such as A sending a SYN packet
> B replying with SYN/ACK
> And C (change MAC) replying with FIN
> Will this cause the connection to close preventing connectivity?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Stu
> 
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gillett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 July 2003 17:39
> To: 'Stuart'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ARP Spoof Question
> 
>  A switch should *always* be learning. A destination MAC
> address should always fall into one of two categories:
> 
> 1. I have it in my switch table (NOT *ARP*, per se), because
> I saw traffic from it on interface X within the last N time-units.
> 
> 2. It's not in my tables -- send this packet to every port and
> assume we'll see a packet from it soon so it will get added to
> my switch table.
> 
>  Switch table entries could get created when ARP response packets
> are seen -- or ARP requests, or DHCP broadcasts, or ....
> 
> David Gillett
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: July 23, 2003 16:13
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: ARP Spoof Question
> >
> >
> > If we use a Cisco switch for example, don't they have a
> > learning period?
> > I would presume that the switch would go through the process
> > of building
> > its ARP tables again.
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 July 2003 17:10
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ARP Spoof Question
> >
> > >Q1.My Question is, Node C will also reply to that request of
> > Node A. SO
> > >now Node A has 2 different MAC for the same IP. How is Node
> > A handling
> > >this situation???
> > >Q2.The switch also updates its table of IP/MAC address
> > bindings, so how
> > >is switch handling this situation???
> > >Is it 'first-come-first-serve' methodology which Node
> > A/Switch takes???
> >
> > I don't know how correct this is, but I would of thought the Node
> > A/Switch
> > would update whatever stored record of IP/MAC it has with the new
> > details.
> >
> > Simon
> >
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