On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Yaron Koren wrote: > It's true that there's no ideal location for the "distance" parameter. I > hadn't thought of defining it in the property itself; I don't think that's > a good idea, though, because it's conceivable to have different queries > that check for different distances for the same property. > And to clarify, the '::~' comparator can only be used for specific > coordinate values, not a string that can be geocoded like "Paris". And to > actually find all points that are, say, "5 km from Paris" is unfortunately > well beyond the current capabilities of SMW. :)
Sure: my example phrases were just meant to illustrate that "nearness" to a certain coordinate might have very different readings in practice, depending on the kind of object that is considered. Anyway, some more design work will be needed to find good ways of extending this feature. -- Markus > It may be something that > Semantic Maps will be able to handle in the not-too-distant future, using > various third-party tools, but probably not through the #ask mechanism. > > -Yaron > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > On Donnerstag, 6. August 2009, Yaron Koren wrote: > > > Oh, I forgot to answer your question - I don't believe there's any way > > > to change the "5 miles" default for geographical-proximity queries > > > > currently. > > > > > (Though, if you prefer, you can think of it as 8.05 kilometers. :) ) > > > I'm not that concerned about it, since if there's a need for a precise > > > distance, it'll presumably get set in the query. > > > > Yes, although the current syntax does not really have a good place for > > setting > > something like this. Another option would be to have it in the > > datatype/property. In any case "close to Eiffel Tower" usually means > > something > > else than "close to Paris" or "close to France". > > > > -- Markus > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > > > > > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > > > On Mittwoch, 5. August 2009, Yaron Koren wrote: > > > > > This is great news! I've been looking forward to this new version > > > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > while. > > > > > There are various other changes that got into in version 1.4.3, > > > > > added by myself and others, that you didn't mention; these include: > > > > > > > > I try to monitor SVN commits but I still miss some things from time > > > > to time. > > > > It would really help if contributors could make a note on their > > > > feature in the > > > > RELEASE-NOTES file, and send an email to the lists for making others > > > > aware of > > > > them. Also, do not forget to document new features on > > > > semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > (or at least to notify someone that documentation is needed). > > > > > > > > > - a new 'category' format, that displays results in the MediaWiki > > > > > category-page style > > > > > - a new 'columns' parameter for the 'ol' and 'ul' formats > > > > > > > > Two very useful things indeed. > > > > > > > > > - use of '~::' in queries for geographic coordinates, not just > > > > strings. > > > > > > Yes, I saw that one. I was not sure about the 5 mile default. Why > > > > miles? > > > > > > How > > > > can you change this? > > > > > > > > > Is there a reason why you didn't include them in the features list? > > > > If > > > > > > not, > > > > > > > > > could you please add them? > > > > > > > > See above. Feel free to add them to semantic-mediawiki.org. > > > > > > > > -- Markus > > > > > > > > > -Yaron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Markus Krötzsch < > > > > > > > > > > mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > > > > > > Wrong sender email again ... this should of course also go to the > > > > > > devel list. > > > > > > -- Markus > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mittwoch, 5. August 2009, Markus Krötzsch wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the new version of Semantic MediaWiki, SMW 1.4.3, is now > > > > available > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > download [1] and in SVN [2]. This is still a minor release, but > > > > it > > > > > > > > > still brings some new features and a significant number of bug > > > > > > > fixes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please run the database initialization after upgrading (this > > > > > > > will add one new special property that will otherwise not > > > > > > > appear on > > > > the > > > > > > Special > > > > > > > > > > > pages that list properties). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further details are given at [3]. Main new features: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Tracking input errors using the new special property "Has > > > > > > > improper > > > > > > > > > > > > value > > > > > > > > > > > > > for" > > > > > > > * Searching for all values of a property using > > > > Special:PageProperty > > > > > > > > > * More options for displaying query results (empty output > > > > > > > format, headers=plain) > > > > > > > * Some new configuration options > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Markus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/semediawiki/ > > > > > > > [2] > > > > http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/extensions/SemanticMediaW > > > > > > > >ik > > > > > > > > > > > > >i/REL_1_4_3/ [3] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMW_1.4.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Markus Krötzsch > > > > > > Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > > > http://korrekt.org mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >----- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal > > > > Reports > > > > > > 2008 > > > > > > > > > > 30-Day trial. 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