On 16/11/12 14:32, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi Markus! > > That's very nice! How hard/long is that task?
Unknown. First we need to decide what we want to have. > > We can now use something like SMWStore::updateDataBefore hook, but not > good approach sometimes: with voting and history s13n you'll need to > create a lot of property values each time the data is updated. When > you semantify the page history you'll need to create several hundreds > datavalues representing the revisions of the current page - that's too > exprensive. The idea was to have data that is not governed by page updates. There are two basic designs: (1) We introduce something like "named graphs". All data belongs to a graph. Only data in the default graph is updated with the page contents; other writing methods are provided for the rest. Maximally flexible, but some storage overhead. (2) We do not use graphs but bind this information to properties: some properties are governed by page contents, other properties are governed in other ways. Less flexible, but no storage overhead. Cheers, Markus > > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Markus Krötzsch > <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: >> On 16/11/12 11:27, Yury Katkov wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone! >>> >>> I talked about the topic of semanticfication of the MediaWiki >>> extension with a lot of people in SMWCon and saw the great interest to >>> this topic. >>> >>> We have tried to describe the problem on this page: >>> >>> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Yury_Katkov/s13n_stands_for_semantification >>> >>> To the users: if you're interested in topics of s13n and have the use >>> case that is not described there - please describe it. >>> >>> To the developers: let's think together what's needed to be done in >>> the SMW core to make s13n of the extensions cleaner and easier. Also >>> the rough time/effort estimate would be great (maybe SMW companies >>> can sponsor the development?) >> >> >> I have discussed this already with Jeroen. We can help to provide an >> infrastructure for this. However, the access paths for enabling efficient >> #ask queries are different from the traditional MW access paths to metadata, >> so all data that is to be s8ed (;-) will need to be replicated in SMW >> tables, even if the same MySQL DB is used. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Markus >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single >>> web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, >>> SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. >>> Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
