Hello Yaron,
I agree that having to add the namespace in the template is confusing, but my
initial reaction to adding "File:" if it is set to uploadable is no. Perhaps
I'm being overly pedantic, but I think of a property for a page that is
targeting a different namespace, most commonly I see this with a User page. If
you have a field that you "default=current user" you need to add the namespace
to that to link back to the user page. I realize that's a little apples and
oranges, but still comes to mind for me. Or "values from namespace=" which if
I'm remembering right doesn't prepend the namespace, also requiring the
template to add it.
So, perhaps it is worth considering more sweeping changes that add namespace
clarification to a lot of things, but that would probably just introduce equal
confusion the other way.
My $0.02.
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On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What about my suggestion?
>
> I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having "uploadable" fields
> add the "File:" to file names. This would be a somewhat big change, so people
> may have opinions on it one way or another.
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For now I can just add some lines of code to the form generator: if
> uploadable option is here it will generate [[property::File:filename]]
> instead of just [[property::filename]].
>
> I've proposed checkbox solution because of the folowing. In my opinion Page
> Schemas can be great visual tool to edit forms and templates very quicky. Now
> the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag parameters.
> More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the editing process.
> -----
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
> Hi Yury,
>
> Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be added to
> the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to have
> uploadable fields in SF start adding a "File:" to the beginning of file names
> they've uploaded. It's something that various people have asked about, but I
> never took that seriously - I liked the "cleanliness" of not including the
> namespace, and just having the file name. But maybe that cleanliness is more
> trouble than it's worth - I know that, even without this Page Schemas issue,
> the fact that a "File:" needs to be added to the template has caused a
> considerable amount of confusion.
>
> The main counter-argument might be that this approach is already in place on
> a lot of wikis, so making a change to the upload setup would require people
> to change a lot of existing pages; but then again, backward-compatibility
> can't be a reason to never make a change, and the Replace Text extension
> might be able to help with that sort of thing anyway.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Yaron
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Yaron, all!
>
> It's possible now to create uploadable fields in forms via PageSchemas: we
> just create a Page property and specifily the field as uploadable in
> additional paramerest. There is however an issue.
> When I generate the templates I need the File namespace to be added in front
> of the filename:
>
> [[someproperty::File:MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>
> Instead I have the following:
>
> [[someproperty::MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>
> and my image not appears on the page.
>
> Yaron, what's your advice on how to better handle that in a PageSchemas if I
> want to add this feature? What about adding a checkbox "uploadable" to the
> Field definition?
> -----
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
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