Yaron, I reread your idea but I'm not sure that I got it right
Do you propose to automatically add "File:" text in the beginning of
uploaded filename like here?
http://i.imgur.com/MU31Tw9.png
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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jamie Thingelstad <ja...@thingelstad.com>wrote:
> Hello Yaron,
>
> I agree that having to add the namespace in the template is confusing, but
> my initial reaction to adding "File:" if it is set to uploadable is no.
> Perhaps I'm being overly pedantic, but I think of a property for a page
> that is targeting a different namespace, most commonly I see this with a
> User page. If you have a field that you "default=current user" you need to
> add the namespace to that to link back to the user page. I realize that's a
> little apples and oranges, but still comes to mind for me. Or "values from
> namespace=" which if I'm remembering right doesn't prepend the namespace,
> also requiring the template to add it.
>
> So, perhaps it is worth considering more sweeping changes that add
> namespace clarification to a lot of things, but that would probably just
> introduce equal confusion the other way.
>
> My $0.02.
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> On May 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What about my suggestion?
>
> I'm also curious if anyone else has an opinion on having "uploadable"
> fields add the "File:" to file names. This would be a somewhat big change,
> so people may have opinions on it one way or another.
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> For now I can just add some lines of code to the form generator: if
>> uploadable option is here it will generate [[property::File:filename]]
>> instead of just [[property::filename]].
>>
>> I've proposed checkbox solution because of the folowing. In my opinion
>> Page Schemas can be great visual tool to edit forms and templates very
>> quicky. Now the editing of the schema slows because I have to look up tag
>> parameters. More buttons, dropdowns and checkboxes could speed up the
>> editing process.
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>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yury,
>>>
>>> Hm, that's true... I hadn't thought of that. Some checkbox could be
>>> added to the Page Schemas form, but maybe the better solution is just to
>>> have uploadable fields in SF start adding a "File:" to the beginning of
>>> file names they've uploaded. It's something that various people have asked
>>> about, but I never took that seriously - I liked the "cleanliness" of not
>>> including the namespace, and just having the file name. But maybe that
>>> cleanliness is more trouble than it's worth - I know that, even without
>>> this Page Schemas issue, the fact that a "File:" needs to be added to the
>>> template has caused a considerable amount of confusion.
>>>
>>> The main counter-argument might be that this approach is already in
>>> place on a lot of wikis, so making a change to the upload setup would
>>> require people to change a lot of existing pages; but then again,
>>> backward-compatibility can't be a reason to never make a change, and the
>>> Replace Text extension might be able to help with that sort of thing anyway.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> -Yaron
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Yaron, all!
>>>>
>>>> It's possible now to create uploadable fields in forms via PageSchemas:
>>>> we just create a Page property and specifily the field as uploadable in
>>>> additional paramerest. There is however an issue.
>>>> When I generate the templates I need the File namespace to be added in
>>>> front of the filename:
>>>>
>>>> [[someproperty::File:MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>
>>>> Instead I have the following:
>>>>
>>>> [[someproperty::MyCoolPicture.jpg]]
>>>>
>>>> and my image not appears on the page.
>>>>
>>>> Yaron, what's your advice on how to better handle that in a PageSchemas
>>>> if I want to add this feature? What about adding a checkbox "uploadable" to
>>>> the Field definition?
>>>> -----
>>>> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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