Sorry, Steve, I've completely lost your point. :) Are you in favor of giving this load testing task to your students? ----- Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Chenoweth, Stephen V <cheno...@rose-hulman.edu> wrote: > Yury, > > Thanks - I am picturing that my students would create a test harness to > generate the activity for load testing of SMW. This sounds like a project > which also could end up with some generally usable code, if done right. > E.g., the ability to point to a file of "typical" activity someone wants to > use for their own wiki. > > My students are just ending the term before when they would begin working on > this and the other idea recommended. It's a perfect time to get them to > "volunteer" to take this on as a project for next term's design class. > > Steve Chenoweth > Assoc Prof, CSSE > RHIT > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ganqtur...@gmail.com [mailto:ganqtur...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Yury > Katkov > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:05 PM > To: Chenoweth, Stephen V > Cc: Jeroen De Dauw; James HK; Semantic MediaWiki developers > Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to > try? > > Hi! > > Another thing is load testing to know the limitations of the platform. > As far as I know there is no public study about SMW capacity. And it's a > great topic for students: you have to do load testing in real job quite > often. I also think that we will have a lot of mentor for this task that will > help to define testing factors/measures. > ----- > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Chenoweth, Stephen V > <cheno...@rose-hulman.edu> wrote: >> Jeroen, >> >> >> >> Thank you very much! This sounds like a well-defined target for my >> students. >> >> >> >> I agree that they might finish it sooner rather than later, so I >> appreciate that it could lead to additional work. >> >> >> >> I'll run this past my class, and will let you know if there are >> immediate questions, etc. >> >> >> >> Thanks again, >> >> >> >> Steve Chenoweth >> >> Assoc Prof, CSSE >> >> RHIT >> >> >> >> From: Jeroen De Dauw [mailto:jeroended...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:17 PM >> To: James HK >> Cc: Neill Mitchell; Chenoweth, Stephen V; Semantic MediaWiki >> developers >> Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for >> undergrads to try? >> >> >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> With regards to the objective to engage in OO and design pattern >> development, Semantic Results Formats does have several design issues >> (misuse of inheritance, violation of SRP etc.) which are rather >> counter-productive to the stated objective. >> >> >> >> I second this. SRF is not suited to learn students how to something well. >> The same holds for MediaWiki and SMW. We are working on removing the >> later from the list, though it is not there yet. >> >> >> >> So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind? >> >> >> >> How about creating a fresh implementation of our wikitext ask query parser? >> >> This would be fairly self contained and can be done without touching >> the existing implementation in SMW core. When its ready it could then >> be used to replace the existing implementation, though this step would >> likely be out of scope. This can be developed without knowledge of MW >> or SMW (expect Ask queries), and requires neither to be installed. >> Implementation would start from scratch, though one can look at the >> existing one in SMW. The people doing this can thus experiment with >> several designs, do not have to bother with unrelated code, and work >> on top of well designed code, rather then the typical example of legacy code. >> >> The role of this parser would be to turn an ask query definition in >> wikitext into the corresponding PHP object definition. The input would >> thus be something like [0] into a Query [1] object. >> >> This is something that needs to happen at some point before we can >> implement related new functionality. So it'd be very helpful if this >> item was tackled for us. >> >> The item is rather smallish, and perhaps to small to fill the course. >> Additional things can be done on top however. If this sounds good to >> you, I'll describe it a bit more on a wiki page and link to the >> relevant resources. >> >> >> [0] http://pastebin.com/mHNvf3yw >> [1] >> https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Ask/blob/master/src/ >> Ask/Language/Query.php >> >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Jeroen De Dauw >> http://www.bn2vs.com >> Don't panic. Don't be evil. ~=[,,_,,]:3 >> -- >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate >> application performance with scalable programming models. Explore >> techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the >> most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. 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