Hi John,

thanks for the link.


On 27 August 2014 21:34, John McClure <jmccl...@hypergrove.com> wrote:
> Without a specified value, then the object is unspecified
> ... so the model you wonder about becomes just "subject-predicate"
> ... thereby breaking the predominant model we live with

No, you confuse the empty (i.e. zero-length) string with the empty
node (call it null, nil, epsilon, blank node, whatever).
You also seem to take shortcuts from "real life" directly down to
lexical representation (and the other way around).

Have a look at para 7. (Literals and datatypes) of the standard you linked:
"RDF literals and datatypes are fully described in Section 5 of
[RDF11-CONCEPTS]."

Now, if you look at that reference you will find in section 5.1:
"The XML Schema built-in types listed in the following table are the
RDF-compatible XSD types."

And if you then follow the link on "xsd:string" you will find:
"The ·value space· of string is the set of finite-length sequences of
zero or more characters (as defined in [XML]) that ·match· the Char
production from [XML]."

I am not sure, whether SMW does (or even could) support the Char
production from XML, but the key here is the "zero or more
characters".

I think I remember having read that SMW was not build to provide a
language that is capable to express everything RDF can express. It
probably couldn't, given that annotations have to be embedded into
wikitext somehow. Nevertheless it does not make sense to me to limit
its capabilities where it is not dictated by the limitations of the
context, namely wikitext. So I assume, there must be some other
compelling reason for these limitations.

And there should be more to it than "We can not imagine any useful
interpretation of your triples in real life." In fact (hi, Nathan),
in my world every goat has a capital and half of them are known under
the empty string. Or, to quote an old teacher of mine: What does the
cow care if I call it a steam engine.

Cheers,
Stephan


Oh, P.S.: RDF does know blank nodes. See
http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-mt/#blank-nodes. They "are treated as
simply indicating the existence of a thing".

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