Hi Lingzhi, Based on what you describe, I think this is a problem with Cluto being able to run on your/Aptana's Solaris system. And you are correct, since Cluto is distributed in binary form it limits your ability to be able to resolve this by recompiling, etc. If you have tried both versions of Cluto (32 and 64 bit) then I'm afraid your best option might be to try another system.
Sorry about that, but I hope this works out for you! Please stay in touch and let us know how it goes. Cordially, Ted On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Ted. > > I didn't use bourne shell. When I ran the test case of clusterstopping.pl, > the error that I got is > > sh: vcluster: cannot execute > > I thought that the test case itself might use bourne shell, which is not > true. So My guess was wrong. > > I use the hosting service of aptana. It runs on the solaris. I don't know > why it doesn't work. Not only vcluster, the scluster seems not working > either. I contract the George, but he didn't either. I wish CLUTO could have > been released with source code. :-) > > Any way, I will try this on my cygwin first, and may try to resolve this > issue later. > > Thanks. > > Lingzhi > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ted Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for these additional details. I'm not entirely clear why you >> would need the "sh" shell - I don't think we explicitly use that >> (unless I am mistaken). Some of the files are named *.sh, but those >> use the csh shell. >> >> We developed SenseClusters on Solaris/Sun OS, and that's actually one >> of the reasons why we use csh quite a bit, since that is what >> Solaris/Sun OS typically uses as the command line shell (often tcsh I >> think). If you are using sh for something, you may want to use csh >> instead. In general we run SenseClusters using the csh shell. >> >> Can you clarify when and why you are using the sh shell? >> >> Thanks! >> Ted >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi, Ted, >> > >> > Thanks for your advice. The vcluster is in the path. The problem is that >> > I >> > can execute under the bash shell, and csh shell. However, when I change >> > to >> > sh, it does't work. >> > >> > -bash-3.2$ ls >> > libcluto.a scluster vcluster >> > -bash-3.2$ ./vcluster >> > -bash: ./vcluster: Invalid argument >> > -bash-3.2$ sh >> > $ vcluster >> > ./vcluster: cannot execute >> > $ >> > >> > It seems that vcluster doesn't work under "sh", which looks also what >> > shell >> > is used in the clutostopping.pl >> > >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors >> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute >> > >> > Here is the outup when I run: >> > >> > SunOS dab442ca.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc >> > >> > I will put those not on the workaround that we made. >> > >> > Thank you. >> > >> > Lingzhi >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ted Pedersen <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Lingzhi, >> >> >> >> Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure >> >> you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall >> >> script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be >> >> getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make >> >> sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script, >> >> and it should be modified in our next release). >> >> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download >> >> >> >> By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz >> >> ), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need >> >> the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about, >> >> since both are said to work with SunOS)... >> >> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz >> >> >> >> This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first >> >> thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run >> >> >> >> which vcluster >> >> >> >> If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then >> >> it's not a path problem. >> >> >> >> If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send >> >> me the output of the following: >> >> >> >> which vcluster >> >> uname -a >> >> echo $PATH >> >> >> >> Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you >> >> worked around them might be helpful. >> >> >> >> I hope this helps, please let us know how things go! >> >> >> >> Cordially, >> >> Ted >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi, Ted, >> >> > We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into >> >> > server. >> >> > It >> >> > is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation, >> >> > however, >> >> > we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but >> >> > still >> >> > one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that >> >> > vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. >> >> > Do >> >> > you >> >> > have a hint on how to work this around. >> >> > Lingzhi >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> > ------------- clusterstopping.pl ------------------- >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings. >> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors >> >> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute >> >> > Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos >> >> > --rowmodel >> >> > none --colmodel none --nooutput testA1.vectors 1 >> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match.... >> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd - >> >> > 0a1 >> >> >> 7 >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created. >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created. >> >> > STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created. >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Lingzhi, >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful. >> >> >> >> >> >> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I >> >> >> wouldn't >> >> >> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there >> >> >> are >> >> >> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially >> >> >> makes >> >> >> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different >> >> >> platforms >> >> >> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If >> >> >> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I >> >> >> can >> >> >> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern. >> >> >> >> >> >> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through >> >> >> the >> >> >> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the >> >> >> same results for your installation. >> >> >> >> >> >> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies. >> >> >> >> >> >> Good luck! >> >> >> Ted >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Thanks Ted. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the >> >> >> > installation >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > I >> >> >> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i >> >> >> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed >> >> >> > successfully >> >> >> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. ) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > CLUTO >> >> >> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I >> >> >> > installed >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test >> >> >> > failed. >> >> >> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, >> >> >> > Other >> >> >> > than >> >> >> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word >> >> >> > "error" >> >> >> > in >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > test result ) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > ------------- clusterstopping.pl ------------------- >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings. >> >> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors >> >> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match.... >> >> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd - >> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created. >> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created. >> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > CLUTO? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thank you. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Lingzhi >> >> >> > >> >> >> > PS: The test result is attached to this email. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Lingzhi, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun >> >> >> >> OS). >> >> >> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the >> >> >> >> vast >> >> >> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is >> >> >> >> done >> >> >> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS >> >> >> >> Windows. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to >> >> >> >> MacOS, >> >> >> >> but >> >> >> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a >> >> >> >> guess, so I don't know for sure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the >> >> >> >> event >> >> >> >> you aren't able to install on your own system. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope this helps. 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