It is survival to hospital discharge. So, if they expire on the floor, it still gets counted against ICU. It's the same as surgical mortality: 30 days regardless of where they are (even at home).
Stinks, but that's the way it is. Hesham A. Hassaballa, MD Program Medical Director Critical Care Rush-Copley Medical Center Assistant Professor of Medicine Rush University Medical Center Phone: (331) 454-6572 ### CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ### This message and any included attachments are from Cogent HMG and are intended only for the addressee. The contents in this message contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally protected. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or contact the Cogent HMG Privacy Officer at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:37 AM, "Michelle Corder" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have a question for the establishing mortality rate: Do you include a patient that is transfered out of the ICU but later expires on the floor in the mortality rate? or Do you only count the patients that expire while in the ICU? Michelle Corder PIH Health ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Philip S. Barie [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: Hesham Hassaballa; <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Mortality Yes, unless you can prove it to be completely unrelated. Which, it seems as though you cannot. ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of Hesham Hassaballa [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 4:28 PM To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Mortality I have a question: A patient was admitted with septic shock, and we successfully treated him and he survived to ICU discharge. Approximately 17 days later, he codes and dies on the floor (unknown reason why) the day before he was slated to be discharged from the hospital. Does this really count against our sepsis mortality? Hesham A. Hassaballa, MD Program Medical Director Critical Care Rush-Copley Medical Center Assistant Professor of Medicine Rush University Medical Center Phone: (331) 454-6572 ### CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ### This message and any included attachments are from Cogent HMG and are intended only for the addressee. The contents in this message contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally protected. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or contact the Cogent HMG Privacy Officer at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. ### CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ### This message and any included attachments are from Cogent HMG and are intended only for the addressee. The contents in this message contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally protected. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or contact the Cogent HMG Privacy Officer at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. NOTICE: This electronic mail (email) message, including any attachments, is intended for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential, the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this information is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this message by error, please notify the sender by reply and immediately destroy this email and any attachments. ### CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ### This message and any included attachments are from Cogent HMG and are intended only for the addressee. The contents in this message contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally protected. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or contact the Cogent HMG Privacy Officer at [email protected].
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