Kelysey,

A physiologist's perspective.

If the patient is

Type O -  Obese then the 30 ml/kg bolus is excessive. And perhaps ideal wt is 
better, although lean body mass is what is really needed. And you can not 
measure that in the ED.

Type F-  Fit 200Kg,  NFL linebacker, Navy SEAL, then 30 ml/kg is appropriate.  
Not necessarily because they have a stronger heart, but because their weight is 
roughly proportional to their blood volume, cardiac output, etc. Again true 
lean body mass would work.

Since most patients are more type 1, then the tendency would be to fix the 
formula at Ideal weight. But don't be afraid to treat the large fit person with 
larger volumes.

g






From: "Kelsey K. Solano" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:04 AM
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Fluid Bolus in pts. with weight > 200 kg

I am wondering whether there are any recommendations regarding fluid 
resuscitation in patients weighing >200 Kg? Our physicians have expressed 
concern about the recommended fluid bolus for patients who are > 200 Kg and 
potential for CHF exacerbations. Are there any resources that address this 
concern or any modifications for this patient population? Also, is it always 
recommended to go with 30 ml/kg based on current weight or should we be 
calculating ideal weight when determining bolus volume? Currently we are using 
the patient's actual weight on admission for bolus calculations.  Any 
clarifications regarding the fluid bolus would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Kelsey K. Solano
Sepsis Coordinator
Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Office: 574-335-2438

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