Good morning all, I'm getting up to speed on sepsis. Can anyone provide the 
August 22, 2014 CMS announcement of the bundle delay and any follow on CMS 
traffic? I've seen secondary references to the delay and indirect references on 
conference call transcripts from the CMS contractor. For my records I'd like 
the primary source and haven't been able to find it on the CMS site. Please 
reply or direct if you can help.

Thanks!

jy

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Beth,
You are correct. It applies to ED patients/direct admits. And those that 
develop sepsis during the stay.



Thank you, Kim

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For someone further along in Sepsis Core Measure prep than me:
My first impression from reading the CMS guidelines was that this measure would 
only apply to ED patients or direct admits (not transfer from ACF), but upon 
further reading, it appears it will apply to inpatients who develop sepsis 
during the stay. Is that correct?
Does the CMS Sepsis Core Measure apply to both ED pts and IPs with sepsis not 
present on admission?
Thank you.
Beth

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Notice that the guidelines state reassessment  "by a licensed independent 
practitioner"....RNs do not qualify for that position because we are not 
independent. Docs, PAs, ARNPs is what I believe they are saying it has to be. I 
truly believe an RN could do those things so I am unclear as to why they chose 
that title to do that reassessment.  Any input on that .....or did we interpret 
it incorrectly?

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So, I've read through the new CMS Guidelines and it states that a repeat 
assessment must be completed within 6 hrs with either a focused exam (including 
VS, cardiopulmonary exam, cap refill, peripheral pulse eval and skin exam) or 
any two of the four: CVP, SV02, bedside cardiovascular ultrasound, passive leg 
raise or fluid challenge.

At our hospital, we have the "shift evaluation" and "shift re-evaluation."  If 
the nurse documents the "shift re-evaluation" they are basically saying nothing 
has changed since the last evaluation.  I'm wondering if that will suffice, or 
if they actually have to do another complete head-to-toe assessment.  Any 
thoughts??

Thanks,
Debbie

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Osceola Regional Medical Center
Kissimmee, Fl 34741
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Maureen,

We give our fluid boluses with a 1 liter pressure bag to infuse them quickly.  
1 liter can be infused in 15-20 minutes with this method.


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On reviewing version 5.0 CMS data element organ dysfunction criteria, there are 
no respiratory or AMS criteria listed.  In our experience septic inpatients are 
frequently identified as having severe sepsis based on meeting 2 SIRS criteria 
and having increasing oxygen needs, decreasing SpO2, or acutely altered mental 
status, and are transferred to the ICU before they decompensate further.  Can 
anyone speak to why these criteria were eliminated, and will they be kept in 
your hospital's screening protocol?

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For someone further along in Sepsis Core Measure prep than me:
My first impression from reading the CMS guidelines was that this measure would 
only apply to ED patients or direct admits (not transfer from ACF), but upon 
further reading, it appears it will apply to inpatients who develop sepsis 
during the stay. Is that correct?
Does the CMS Sepsis Core Measure apply to both ED pts and IPs with sepsis not 
present on admission?
Thank you.
Beth

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Notice that the guidelines state reassessment  "by a licensed independent 
practitioner"....RNs do not qualify for that position because we are not 
independent. Docs, PAs, ARNPs is what I believe they are saying it has to be. I 
truly believe an RN could do those things so I am unclear as to why they chose 
that title to do that reassessment.  Any input on that .....or did we interpret 
it incorrectly?

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So, I've read through the new CMS Guidelines and it states that a repeat 
assessment must be completed within 6 hrs with either a focused exam (including 
VS, cardiopulmonary exam, cap refill, peripheral pulse eval and skin exam) or 
any two of the four: CVP, SV02, bedside cardiovascular ultrasound, passive leg 
raise or fluid challenge.

At our hospital, we have the "shift evaluation" and "shift re-evaluation."  If 
the nurse documents the "shift re-evaluation" they are basically saying nothing 
has changed since the last evaluation.  I'm wondering if that will suffice, or 
if they actually have to do another complete head-to-toe assessment.  Any 
thoughts??

Thanks,
Debbie

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Sepsis Coordinator
Osceola Regional Medical Center
Kissimmee, Fl 34741
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Hi to all,

I can't find any literature to support the best or any methodology for 
administering fluid boluses.  There is a lot of variation; most IV pumps only 
give 999/hr, some RNs give via gravity, and some use a pressure bag.  As we 
give large volumes for sepsis volume resuscitation in short amounts of time, 
what do you do in your facility and is there any literature regarding the 
safest method?

Thanks,


Maureen A. Seckel, APN, ACNS-BC, CCNS, CCRN, FCCM Lead CNS Medical Pulmonary 
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