This list serve has been very helpful for those of us working on sepsis and the 
CMS core measure.  The SCCM guidelines state that 30ml/kg is to be given for 
severe sepsis (organ dysfunction and 2 SIRS due to a suspected or documented 
infection) at a rate of 30ml/kg.  See table page 596 of the SCCM guidelines.  
If hypotension persists or LA >4, the SCCM defines this as septic shock.  This 
is where I am confused.  On page 1-15 of the CMS rules, our team is 
interpreting that that fluids 30ml/kg are given after presentation of septic 
shock.  This seems to contradict the SCCM new bundle guidelines.

How is CMS defining septic shock?  Any other thoughts?


Jeanie Bollinger RN,MSN,ACCNS-AG, CCRN
Sepsis Clinical Nurse Specialist
Center For Nursing Excellence
Mission Health
Asheville, NC.

Phone 828-213-7171
Pager 207-2363



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