Lori,
We have an automatic repeat lactic acid order for >2.  It fires at 3 hrs from 
the first lactate result.  We have had good success with this process.  

Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN,ACCNS-AG, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Acute Medicine
Mission Health
Asheville, NC

Phone:828-213-7171

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Today's Topics:

   1. Sepsis Screen in ED (Gena Henriques)
   2. question ([email protected])
   3. Core measure: VS in the OR (Jeanie Bollinger)
   4. Re: repeat lactate levels ([email protected])


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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:25:50 -0600
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Hi,

Would anyone mind sharing what the sepsis screen looks like in your ED?

Thanks,

Gena Henriques, MSN. RN
Sepsis Coordinator
Touro Infirmary
New Orleans, LA
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Hello group,

I am being told by our quality department that if a patient is documented with 
severe sepsis and has a lactic acid greater than 4 that it is automatically 
coded as septic shock even though it's not documented. Is this true?

Thanks,
Debbie Chambless
Sepsis Coordinator
Osceola Regional Medical Center
Kissimmee, Fl 34371
407-518-3949
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We have received some fall outs of the Sepsis Measure due to vital signs in the 
OR being used for time zero.  I sent this to QNet and below is the response 
that I received:

Unless there is physician documentation that the low BP or MAP is due to the 
medications or other condition within the OR, the BP's may be used to meet 
criteria.

The anesthesiologist or CRNA does not document a narrative note as to "why" the 
BP dropped.  Is this a reasonable expectation?  The patient is in the OR for 
source control and is being monitored constantly.  Is there consideration for 
excluding these patients from the measure or at least excluding vital signs 
recorded in the OR?

Jeanie Bollinger MSN,RN,ACCNS-AG, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Acute Medicine
Mission Health
Asheville, NC

Phone:828-213-7171

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Lori, we have the reflex order here set for 2 hours post the initial lactate 
level. It has been working well for us. I know originally some wanted to push 
the reflex back to 4 hours, but I am worried that if we do that we might 
experience a delay that leads to a fallout.

Maggie Macias, RN
Sepsis Program Coordinator
Valley Regional Medical Center
Brownsville, TX
(956) 350-7179 (O)
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


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At our facility we are considering placing a reflex order on initial lactate 
levels >2.0.   Has anyone else initiated this and how is it working?  Thank you

Lori Bly, RN
Quality Management Department
ACMH Hospital
One Nolte Drive
Kittanning, PA 16201
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