I haven't seen anywhere that we're to look at coding for severe sepsis time. It's physician/APN/PA documentation, not coders picking up POA.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 6:28 PM To: Belfi, Karen; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Present on arrival question It all depends on how it's coded. Because there is septic shock documented, they will take that and code it as such with or without definitive infection. If the coders tag it as a POA case, your time zero is going to be triage time per CMS guidelines. Hope this helps. From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Belfi, Karen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:00 AM To: Fortin-Davis Jocelyne; [email protected]; [email protected]; Siscoe-Hapshie Anita; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question There's no infection documented. From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:53 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question If the BIPAP is documented for acute resp. failure at 02:10, would it not mean that severe sepsis criteria are met at 02:10?? Then septic shock is documented at 02:45 so septic shock onset would be 02:45 unless it met by CMS criteria prior to that time??? We are to use whatever time is the earliest.. Correct? Jocelyne [cid:[email protected]][cid:[email protected]] "Teamwork is the ability to work together toward a common vision--the ability to direct individual accomplishments toward organizational objectives. It is the fuel that allows common people to attain uncommon results"- Andrew Carnegie Jocelyne F. Davis, MSN, RN, CNRN Stroke and Sepsis Programs Coordinator Ph: (941) 342-1139 Fax: (941)379-5466 Doctors Hospital of Sarasota 5731 Bee Ridge Road Sarasota, FL 34233 doctorsofsarasota.com [cid:[email protected]] [cid:[email protected]] This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or CONFIDENTIAL information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachments, please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and notify the sender by reply email or contact the sender at the number listed. From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merwin, Courtney C. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 9:40 AM To: Kalaw, Carmencita ARMC-Performance Improvement <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Siscoe-Hapshie Anita <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question I agree, Severe sepsis and Septic shock times are 0245. Courtney Merwin BS, RRT Quality Management East Jefferson General Hospital 4200 Houma Blvd. Metairie, LA 70006 504-503-5968 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kalaw, Carmencita ARMC-Performance Improvement Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 10:24 AM To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'; '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question Severe sepsis time presentation would be the same time in which the physician documented septic shock at 0245. [cid:[email protected]] Carmencita S. Kalaw, BSN, RN Performance Improvement Quality Management Nurse ----------------------------------------------- Phone: 909.580.1036 www.arrowheadmedcenter.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.arrowheadmedcenter.org&d=DwMFAg&c=qqcbk_QeabW4Z7GBhIMNtn_B7aQjktEuWNmUvrzri9o&r=9XT3K_nIvIIF-7Bh2TiB0g&m=GeNkUfPzmybpfKqZahEJ4TCvfmdmzA19_TqLtF2KJQo&s=KDIK1vbGo88-wvcAbgBhHWNYHIG4BHDYBsVMqmQ_mfY&e=> From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:11 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question Yes Anita Siscoe-Hapshie Anita Siscoe-Hapshie, RN, MSN, CCRN Sepsis Coordinator [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Citrus Memorial Hospital 502 W. 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From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bly, Lori Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 8:40 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sepsis Groups] Present on arrival question Scenario: female pt to ED - Arrival time: 015 Triage: 0151 SIRS temp 102.8, hr 141 , resp 34 all at 0154 , wbc CPap 0154 BiPap at 0210 (new for this pt) Initial Lactate 1.6 at 0205 Documentation of Septic shock 0245 on ED physician note Is this case a present on arrival ? What time do I use for Severe Sepsis Presentation. Thank you Lori Bly, RN Quality Management Department ACMH Hospital One Nolte Drive Kittanning, PA 16201 Extension: 8459 email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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