They are. But according to the spec manual oral or rectal vanco is appropriate 
for c diff:



If the patient has C. difficile, and IV antibiotic(s) from Table 5.0 or an 
appropriate combination of IV antibiotics from Table 5.1 are not started within 
the 3 hours following presentation of severe sepsis, and the following 
conditions are met, choose value "1." o There is physician/APN/PA documentation 
within 24 hours prior to the antibiotic start time identifying the presence of 
C. difficile.

        o Any one of the treatments below is initiated within 3 hours following 
severe sepsis presentation:

        Oral vancomycin with or without oral or IV metronidazole (Flagyl)

        Rectal vancomycin with or without IV metronidazole (Flagyl)

        IV metronidazole (Flagyl) monotherapy






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Lankenau Medical Center
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That's a great question. I think though the definition is looking for IV 
antibiotics.

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Good Afternoon,
Re: antibiotic choice, if there is a positive C Diff culture, with oral vanco 
and IV flagyl ordered, do we also have to give broad spectrum IV antibiotics? 
My understanding was that we could be more specific with the antibiotic if we 
had a culture result directing the choice.

Thank you,
Molly



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