Am Mittwoch, den 03.01.2007, 22:59 +0000 schrieb Danny Angus: > I believe that proposals thrashed out in the sandbox area are good, > and can go places where we wouldn't want James to go, they can ask > more questions than they answer. > > But... this project does still exist through the mailing lists, and > experiments in the sandbox don't really mean much unless they at least > start or end in discussions on the list. > > I'm 100% in favour of people demonstrating and experimenting in the > sandbox, but please remember that the purpose is to illustrate or > provoke discussions on the list.
I think it is an very important goal that people do their experiments inside the ASF. It's a great value to have it here under ASL and not on the private hard disk. I guess that is why apache labs was founded (when it becomes more than an experiment). Especially James should be happy when *any* new code gets written. Alternatively James goes just nowhere. (Our current direction) It is normal in research that much more experiments fail than they have success. It should be the authors concern how verbose he introduces his work. I have a voice to ask If I'm interested. Of course detailed proposals are very high appreciated, but have often a quite short lifetime, too. In this case I found the SVN comments quite informative. We should have enough trust that anyone here treats ASF resources, like SVN, with responsibility. IMO it is really inappropriate that the first reaction to activity are complains about workflow. It's a shame. Starting with asking smart questions would have been a much better way. (http://james.apache.org/mail.html) Often answers to individual questions discover the points that everyone is interested in, but were not mentioned in the monologue before. And that is my idea of this list, dialog not monologue. With or without prefix. Joachim --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]