Hi Tarun! Thanks for the great work you are doing! See comments below.
Saludos, Pablo Flores On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pablo, > > I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please > let me know if I got the attempted fixes right. I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this? > > I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it > detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could > also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better? For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-) > > Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the > same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or > will the system be tested by one person at a time? Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether.... what problems may happen? > > Thanks, > Tarun > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> *Creating a new blog >> >> * >> >> * The login page isn't in spanish >> >> The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the >> next update after we get abiword working. >> >> Great! >> >> >> >> * I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog.... I think we >> >> should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing >> it). Volunteers? :-) >> >> I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I >> thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the >> students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an >> admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would >> be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once. >> >> Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is >> registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should >> stay registered in the laptop. >> One important feature would be letting children use different registration >> systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for >> children and even more for teachers! >> >> >> >> * In the "Adding a new OU blog" form, I can't access the >> "Manage >> >> Remote Blogs" button, it takes me to a page that says "Sorry, >> but you do not currently have permissions to do that >> ([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about >> this error >> <http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions>". * >> >> I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login. If >> you are logged in as student, you would have to logout. >> >> It doesn't work logged in as teacher. >> >> Do teacher's and students share the same machine? >> >> Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.) >> from their own laptops. >> >> >> >> * It would be better if some options could be hidden, like >> "Common >> module settings". >> >> This will be done in the next update. There is button to show all >> the advanced options at the bottom if needed. >> >> Ok. >> >> >> *New blog post* >> >> >> * From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I >> could use the other interface >> ( >> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2 >> ), >> but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. * >> >> For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the >> top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should >> be repositioned? >> >> Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before >> starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in >> the class... >> >> >> >> * I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from >> any of >> >> the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the >> file as >> an image). >> >> Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword >> on the server. >> >> Ok. >> >> I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily >> work would be. Let's see... >> >> * First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and >> password >> for the system. >> * The teacher creates a new blog using the interface >> >> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2§ion=0&return=0 >> < >> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2§ion=0&return=0 >> > >> < >> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2§ion=0&return=0 >> < >> http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2§ion=0&return=0 >> >> >> * All of her children have to get a user and password. >> >> Yes, and it will be saved on the XO so only needs to be entered >> one time. >> >> Ok! >> >> >> >> * Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for >> which >> >> children will have to make their posts to the blog. To do so, >> children will have to access to the blog page (the moodle >> one), >> and click on "New blog post". >> * As children submit their posts, the teacher will be able >> to see >> them in the blog page. Children will only see their own posts >> and the ones already approved by the teacher. Question: >> How can >> a child know if his post was approved? >> >> Hm, I did not think of this. We could automatically post a >> comment locally. What would you suggest? I'm not sure how >> teachers and students communicate on the XO. >> >> We discussed this issue time ago with some friends of a graphics design >> company that was studying how children interfaces should be. The conclusion >> we arrived to is that the best would be to remark the state of the post >> graphically on the blog. For instance, keeping in gray the posts that are >> still not approved. I don't know if it can be implemented easily. >> Teachers could also use the comments form to give feedback, although the >> most common way would be the straight talk in the class... >> >> >> >> * The approved posts will go public, depending on the >> >> configuration: If there is a remote blog configured (blogspot >> for instance), they will appear there. If it's local only, it >> will be seen by others, depending on the visibility >> configuration of the blog. >> >> All agree with this? >> >> That looks to be all in accordance with what we are trying to >> implement. >> >> Hahaha, ok! >> >> I think the biggest problem we're facing at the moment, to let some >> teachers test thoughtfully the application is that we should allow them to >> post entries to their own blog, being able to upload pictures on them... >> which is not possible at the moment. As soon as we solve this (allowing >> pictures uploading from the moodle interface?), we will be able to get more >> feedback from teachers. >> >> One question: I'm working on the new home page for the blog, >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog, isn't there any problem in putting the >> passwords there for the moment? >> >> Regards, >> Pablo >> >> >> >> Thanks a lot for your input. >> >> Tarun >> >> >> >
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