Be sure to read the reference [2] article too. Very interesting. Here is the link for your convenience. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/amazon_hey_spammers_get_off_my.html
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Posadas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James Users List" <server-user@james.apache.org> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail Interesting, thanks for the link! I'll discuss it with the other engineers. Al Stu wrote: > What good is it if it does not work? > > Abuse > In early July 2008 Outblaze and Spamhaus.org started to block Amazon's EC2 > address pool due to massive spam and malware distribution problems. Online > criminals are using Amazon's service, because complaints against paying > customers will not result in a ban of the account, only termination of the > offending instance. The spammer or spyware distributor then creates > another > instance, which gets a new IP address, and continues with its malicious > activity. [2] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rex Posadas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "James Users List" <server-user@james.apache.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail > > > Hi Al, > > Thanks for the response. > > I have James installed in a Fedora box and a CentOS EC2 instance, so I'm > aware that James runs in Linux. > > An advantage of using Amazon EC2 over "real hosting providers" is that > I can bring up/down servers, and server clusters very rapidly. > > This helps me scale very quickly, depending on my business needs. > > - Rex > > > Al Stu wrote: > >> Why go through all that trouble? Just get a real hosting provider for >> your >> James server. >> >> These folks are really good, experts at Linux and have recently added >> Windows to there service offerings. >> >> http://BestWebHostEver.homelinux.com >> "Root is everything" >> >> I'm running a Linux VPS from them and have found them to be top notch. >> Initial provisioning, reinstalls, reboots, etc. all automated (Linux only >> for now, I'm sure they are heading there with their Windows offerings >> too). >> And because they have their own block of IP addresses they are able to >> provide ability for you to have an appropriate reverse PTR record for you >> mail server. Some ISP's will not accept email from MTA's/MX's that do >> not >> have a matching reverse PTR record. >> >> Java VM runs on Linux too you know, not just Windows. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rex Posadas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "James Users List" <server-user@james.apache.org> >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:22 AM >> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail >> >> >> Found what the issue was. >> >> My James installation lives in an Amazon EC2 image. This has the effect >> of James assigning itself the wrong dnsdomainname. >> >> I'm working on a solution where I am will be forwarding email from a >> Gmail trusted host to my EC2 instances. >> >> - Rex >> >> >> Max Impact wrote: >> >> >>> I'd use something other than Google to test if my James recieves. >>> Google >>> takes security to the extreme and I would use them only to verify my >>> server adhere to their security, not for basic tests (which they would >>> shurely fail). >>> >>> Google quickly grey / black lists domains on Dynamic DNS, so if that's >>> you >>> you may have allready been listed by them and they won't send to you. >>> >>> Go find some anonymous mailer site somewhere, or try Yahoo and MSN (may >>> also fail if u'd been listed). Suggest you try quite a couple of >>> options >>> and if you still not recieving considder it a problem. >>> >>> Good luck ;) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:15:21 +0900 >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> To: server-user@james.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: James processing mail from Yahoo but not from Gmail >>>> >>>> Rex, >>>> >>>> If it isn't getting to your server at all then gmail is just refusing >>>> to send it. Do you not get any kind of MAILER DAEMON mail back in your >>>> gmail inbox? >>>> >>>> I meant to ask what kind of domain are you sending to? Google might >>>> not like sending to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or some >>>> other dynamic ip dns. Not sure though. >>>> >>>> Anyway, it sounds like some sort of domain or gmail security issue if >>>> the mail really isn't making it to your server. >>>> >>>> Ian >>>> >>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Ian, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the response. >>>>> >>>>> 1 - My mailet runs when I write to James using from my Yahoo account, >>>>> and my >>>>> work account. But It does nothing when using my Gmail account. So, >>>>> I'm >>>>> pretty sure my Gmail email never go to the mailet. >>>>> >>>>> 2 - I don't create user accounts in James. I just need to process the >>>>> email >>>>> coming in and put it's data in the DB. >>>>> >>>>> 3 - Do I check for the mail logs in : james/apps/james/logs ? There's >>>>> a >>>>> whole mess of logs there. Is there one in particular I should look >>>>> at? >>>>> >>>>> 4 - james/logs doesn't produce any errors or indicate that any email >>>>> blocked. >>>>> >>>>> 5 - > Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail? >>>>> >>>>> I don't send any e-mail from James. I only write to James. >>>>> thanks, >>>>> - Rex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ian Lewis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rex, >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you checked the mail logs to see if the mail is actually >>>>>> arriving >>>>>> at your mail server? If your custom mailet does some logging you >>>>>> could >>>>>> check the mailet log file to see what might be happening. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, what kind of domain name are you using to send e-mail? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/7/22 Rex Posadas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> To all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am having problems sending email, from my google account, to my >>>>>>> box >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> has James installed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The strange thing is that when I use my Yahoo account, James >>>>>>> receives >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> email and processes it correctly. Everything works fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I said "Processes it correctly" it means: I have James running >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> custom mailet. the mailet simply puts email data into a DB table. >>>>>>> For >>>>>>> example, extracting the "from: address" and putting that in a DB. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> works >>>>>>> when I send an email to James using my Yahoo account - but not with >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> Gmail >>>>>>> account. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James is installed in CentOS 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any Ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rex >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Invite your Facebook friends to chat on Messenger >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719649/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
