Mark,
I originally cloned 3.3 branch when I started my migration back in
July. Then I saw official 3.4 was released. I was surprised that there
wasn't an official 3.4 branch in git. But when I asked, I was told that
'master' branch was the one to use. I haven't checked recently. But
from what you are saying, I gather that there is still no 3.4 branch in
git (??). Master will give you the latest code. But the way I
understand it, master changes every few days as new commits are
finalized, which is going to be a bear to try to replicate problems. It
appears that the last 'official' version in git is the 3.3 branch.
Might be best if you went back to 3.3 for now.
I have been a JAMES user for about 16-17 years. I have done a few
migrations over that period. My migration from ver 3.0.0beta5 (circa
2014) to the latest version has been painful at best. You can read the
'diary' of my migration saga in this users group and the server-dev
group starting 3 months ago. I have encountered several 'out of the
box' problems during my migration attempt which have cost me many days.
Until now, I have been the lone voice in the wilderness pointing this
out. I don't want to scare you... but I started playing with migration
in late July. I went live with the updated JAMES this past Monday
evening. Even after going live, I found and reported a problem with the
three mailets that put mail in folders a couple of days ago. I don't
know if I'm an isolated special case that causes this particular problem
or not. But mail was periodically being discarded, sometimes with an
exception in the logs and sometimes with no exception. I hacked the
code to get it to work with my situation. But it needs to be addressed
by someone who understands the 'right' way to do it.
All this to say, I feel your pain. I love JAMES. But if I wasn't
simply bullheaded enough to remain, I would have abandoned JAMES after a
few weeks of trying to get this migration to work last summer. I know
just enough about the internal workings of JAMES to be dangerous. I've
found a few problems. I've used duct-tape and baling wire and now have
everything working. But I don't know the right way to fix them. I
love the fact that the JAMES team is diligently working on new
enhancements (I've got a few requests in myself...). But you are now a
2nd situation approaching abandoning JAMES because you can't get it to
work out of the box. I believe any 'out of the box' problem should be
viewed as category-1 crit-sit ahead of any enhancement work. That's
where you gain or lose a user.
With what I have learned during my trek, I'm convinced that I can help
you get up and running. But if we could get one other person from the
JAMES development team that really understands the inner workings to
join me and agree to be a quick-response when out-of-the-box problems
are reported. I believe it could avoid having people abandon JAMES as a
solution. We MUST get out-of-the-box to be a good experience for everyone.
So, I'm willing to work with you. All of this is very fresh in my
mind. Let me know more details about what you are seeing, and we'll get
you up and running.
Jerry
On 10/25/2019 4:55 AM, Mark Gordon wrote:
Jerry,
Where are you getting the updated 3.4 source or binary?
I cloned the git repository. That seems like it is 3.5 (the next version)
I did not see an active branch for 3.4 with bug fixes.
I have used james in the past and I don't remember having this much trouble
getting it going. I tasked one of my employees with getting james going and
he told me it did not work and reverted to using postfix. I wanted to use
james because we are a java shop and will need to write maillets for
processing the email. I wasted a full day messing around with this and got
nowhere.
-Mark
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:46 PM Jerry Malcolm <techst...@malcolms.com>
wrote:
Mark,
I'm running 3.4 (+plus a few fixes/tweaks I've had to add...). I'm going
to be really uneducated here.... If I am running ActiveMQ or RabbitMQ,
it's totally under the covers. I'm not even sure what it used for,
unless it's for internal passing of the email. I have done nothing to
configure it. I assume I've had no problems with it either. Basically
no clue about anything related to ActiveMQ. Do you have a special
requirement to get involved with configuring ActiveMQ?
I'm not using POP. Just IMAP and SMTP.
If all of the logs are set to debug AND if all of the object paths that
are writing logs have a definition in log4j.properties, you should have
a pretty good trace of the mail all the way from entering the pipeline
until JAMES is 'done' with it. Most of this should be in
mailetcontainer.log. If you are not seeing a detailed trace of
entering/exiting each mailet through the pipeline, we need to start
there. Without some log/trace info, it's going to too much conjecture
as to what is happening with the mail item in the pipeline.
Are you familiar with the matcher/mailet philosophy and the
mailetcontainer.xml pipeline definition? I can bring you up to speed
quickly on that if necessary. Knowing that will help determine the
problem.
Can you give me a bit more detail defining mail 'getting lost'? Is this
only on outbound, only on inbound, or both? And if outbound,
should/does the email get written to the sent folder by James (as
opposed to Thunderbird writing a 'copy')? Does the email not get
delivered externally? If inbound, do you see the mail coming in (in the
logs), but it just doesn't show up in a destination folder?
Jerry
On 10/24/2019 7:15 PM, Mark Gordon wrote:
James,
Are you running 3.4? I don;t think the DNS issue is the problem. It is
just really odd. The log looks correct. Even when I kick it up to TRACE
for most packages. THe email just disappears,
Pop and iMAP seem to be working. SMTP accept the email but then it just
disappears.
I just checked out the GIT repository for the project. I am going to try
to build. the package.
If you are not using ActiveMQ are you using RabbitMQ? how is that
configured?
Thanks
Mark
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:32 PM Jerry Malcolm <techst...@malcolms.com>
wrote:
I'm not using ActiveMQ. So I can't make a recommendation there. I
haven't had any problems with DNS. What do the error messages say?
On 10/24/2019 5:42 PM, Mark Gordon wrote:
Thanks for the response James.
Should I revert back to a previous version?
Is this the first version using ActiveMQ? SHould I be using an
alternative to ActiveMQ?
I am getting DNS errors when it is trying to resolve localhost. Looks
like it is also struggling with the hostname.
-Mark
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:50 PM Jerry Malcolm <techst...@malcolms.com>
wrote:
Mark,
I'm right with you.... It turns out that log4j.properties has several
omissions. Several were fixed a month or so ago. Not sure if your
version picked up the changes. But I've added even more additions to
get the logging info I have needed in my migration journey.
Here is my list of logger control lines from my current
conf/log4j.properties. Change all of the INFOs to DEBUGs. There
might
be even more log data if you change everything to TRACE instead of
DEBUG. Just don't run it too long in that state unless you have a
huge
harddrive.
Look for mailet log entries in mailetcontainer.log, specifically from
ToSenderFolder, ToRecipientFolder, and LocalDelivery mailets.
Hopefully
with the heavy logging, it'll show you the folder it puts mail into.
One thing... if you find ANY exception dumps in the logs with the
ReadOnly exception on folders, let's talk. I've learned a lot about
that problem in the past couple of days. And if you get that
exception
your mail will NOT be stored anywhere. But I think I've found a fix
for
that if you are getting it.
Let me know.
--Jerry
Log4j.properties (not the entire file... just the bottom part of the
file)
log4j.logger.etm.core.monitor.EtmMonitor= INFO, CONS, FILE
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.dnsservice=INFO, DNSSERVICE
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.domainlist=INFO, DOMAINLIST
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.fetchmail=INFO, FETCHMAIL
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.imapserver=INFO, IMAPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.lmtpserver=INFO, LMTPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailboxmanager=INFO, MAILBOXMANAGER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailetcontainer=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailetcontext=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailprocessor=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailqueuefactory=INFO, MAILQUEUEFACTORY
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailrepositorystore=INFO,
MAILREPOSITORYSTORE
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.mailspooler=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.pop3server=INFO, POP3SERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.protocols.api=INFO, SMTPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.protocols.imap=INFO, IMAPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.protocols.smtp=INFO, SMTPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.smtpserver=INFO, SMTPSERVER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.spamassassin=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.transport=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.usersrepository=INFO, USERSREPOSITORY
log4j.logger.org.apache.james.virtualusertable=INFO, VIRTUALUSERTABLE
log4j.logger.org.apache.mailet.base=INFO, MAILETCONTAINER
On 10/24/2019 4:16 PM, Mark Gordon wrote:
I have a virtual ubuntu 18.04 install with postgres 10. I am trying
to
get
apache james 3.4 to work as a simple smtp server and pop3 server.
I unzip'ed the install and edited the james.
I was getting an error on startup so I did this:
mailetcontainer.xml
Was:
<mailet matcher="All" class="WithPriority">
<value>8</value>
</mailet>
Changed:
<mailet matcher="All" class="WithPriority">
<priority>8</priority>
</mailet>
I am running smtp on two ports
smtpserver.xml
<bind>0.0.0.0:25,0.0.0.0:27</bind>
SEtting auth required to true
<authRequired>true</authRequired>
My ISP is blocking 25 so I am sending on port 27.
I am adding my domain via james-cli.
<domainlist class="org.apache.james.domainlist.jpa.JPADomainList">
<!--
<autodetect>true</autodetect>
<autodetectIP>true</autodetectIP>
-->
</domainlist>
I used james-cli to add a domain and user with a password. I checked
the
derby database and both were added correctly.
I have my mx record set at my DNS provider. I am using thunderbird
and
I
have my smtp server set to this system
I send an email from gmail to the user on this system.
INFO 21:06:39,470 | org.apache.james.smtpserver.SendMailHandler |
Successfully spooled mail
Mail1571951199365-0550fcd4-2530-4595-a4bd-8e2900e90728 from
MaybeSender{mailAddress=Optional[m...@yyyyyyy.com]} on
mail-vs1-f46.google.com/209.85.217.46 for [m...@xxxxxxxx.com]
XXXXX and YYYYY are changed...
I then pop my mail from thunderbird and it connects OK I know this
because
if I enter the wrong password I get an error. and POP always says
that
no
new emails.
it is the same when i send from thunderbird to a gmail account using
james
as my smtp server.I get this in the log:
INFO 21:12:10,931 |
org.apache.james.domainlist.lib.AbstractDomainList |
Local host is: email.
INFO 21:12:11,071 | org.apache.james.smtpserver.SendMailHandler |
Successfully spooled mail
Mail1571951531021-8f8e30e7-ed3d-4520-8649-b4203ce5b408 from
MaybeSender{mailAddress=Optional[m...@xxxxx.com]} on
63.228.129.34/63.228.129.34 for [m...@yyyyyy.com]
but I never get the email.
Where can I go see the spooled email? I changed the logging to DEBUG
but I
am still not getting much. POP is not showing much of anything....
actually nothing.
HELP!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
Mark
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