Hi Rene,

I've looked and commented on that PR, thank you.  I've also file a new
issue:

https://github.com/linagora/james-project/issues/3231

regarding other EOL like Springframework (3.2.x EOL at end of 2016).  If I
may suggest stopping development on 3.x branch and start with 4.0 by
replacing all EOL and any close to EOL dependencies?

Regards,
Tommy


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 7:05 PM Rene Cordier <rcord...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Tommy,
>
> Thanks for noticing it and raising the issue, it is a concern indeed. We
> forgot to inform you but we started working on it, a PR has been
> proposed for moving to log4j2 :
> https://github.com/linagora/james-project/pull/3214
>
> Please take a look if you have time. Don't hesitate to try or give
> comments as well.
>
> Regards,
> Rene.
>
> On 21/03/2020 03:16, Tommy Pham wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> >> Which knob(s) on the logging configuration did you turn on?  Have you
> tried
> >>> org.apache.james.protocols?  I just looked briefly through the codes
> for
> >>> 3.4 and I think this one may help you even though the code doesn't log
> as
> >>> much like springframework at debug level.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Despite using version 3.3.0 myself, but seeing Malcom's assertion that
> >> logging setup had changed in 3.4.0, I just used the file he posted with
> >> very little change, just one or two flips from INFO to DEBUG.
> >>
> >> Prior to that my 3.3.0 setup was only writing to the james-server.log
> and
> >> wrapper.log, but now there is additional logging in other log files.
> What I
> >> particularly missed was having some feedback from remote mail exchangers
> >> that I sent mail to and that is now satisfied in part at least. So it's
> now
> >> less of a concern.
> >>
> >> Was interested to read that you said (I think) you had 3.3.0 running on
> >> java 11 as that doesn't work for me. I have to run a java webmail client
> >> (of james running in java 8) in java 11 (!) to make imaps work. I've
> think
> >> I read somewhere that's a java 8 bug though.
> >>
> >
> > I wanted to run James on Java/JDK 11 because Java 8 is going away in
> about
> > a year.  I didn't want to spend time setting it up only to get it working
> > again later on JDK 11.  Also, IMO, I don't think EOL software should be
> > used in production due security risks especially when a viable
> replacement
> > is available.  The only reason that I could think of thus far, from both
> > looking at the jars and partly in code, is the log4j (v1) dependency.  If
> > you replace the log4j with log4j2 jars and the appropriate configuration
> > file, you should be good to use later versions of Java.  This is what I
> did
> > to get James running on Java 11:
> >
> >   # ll james-server-app-3.*.0/lib/{*log*,*slf*}
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   66023 Feb 12  2019
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/jboss-logging-3.3.1.Final.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   16515 Feb 12  2019
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/jcl-over-slf4j-1.7.25.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      31 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-1.2-api-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-1.2-api-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-api-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-api-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      28 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-core-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-core-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-jcl-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-jcl-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-jul-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-jul-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      34 Mar 19 04:10
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/log4j-slf4j-impl-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-slf4j-impl-2.13.1.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   10890 Feb 12  2019
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/metrics-logger-3.3.0.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 18 12:41
> > james-server-app-3.3.0/lib/slf4j-api-1.7.30.jar@ ->
> > ../new/slf4j-api-1.7.30.jar
> >
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   61829 Dec  3  2016
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/commons-logging-1.2.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   60201 Jul  5  2019
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/jboss-logging-3.4.0.Final.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   16462 Aug 30  2019
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/jcl-over-slf4j-1.7.27.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      31 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-1.2-api-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-1.2-api-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-api-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-api-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      28 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-core-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-core-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-jcl-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-jcl-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-jul-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-jul-2.13.1.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      34 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/log4j-slf4j-impl-2.13.1.jar@ ->
> > ../new/log4j-slf4j-impl-2.13.1.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  471901 Jul  5  2017
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/logback-core-1.2.3.jar
> > -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   10439 Sep  5  2019
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/metrics-logger-3.4.0.jar
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel      27 Mar 19 04:17
> > james-server-app-3.4.0/lib/slf4j-api-1.7.30.jar@ ->
> > ../new/slf4j-api-1.7.30.jar
> >
> > I've added few extra log4j2 bridges to see as much logging as possible in
> > case any of the other dependencies uses other then log4j2 and updated the
> > slf4j to most current 1.7.30 instead of 1.7.25 for security.  Here's my
> > log4j2 configuration file:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/tommyhp2/ajs/blob/master/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/log4j2.xml
> >
> > Feel free to use and change as needed.  While typing this up and looking
> at
> > the list of jars above, you could also remove the jcl-over-slf4j jar
> also.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tommy
> >
>
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